Counting cycles in a permutation

In summary, the discussion revolves around proving that for two permutations f and g in Sn, the number of disjoint cycles in fg is equal to the number of disjoint cycles in gf. It is noted that while in general fg does not equal gf, working examples show that they always decompose into the same number of disjoint cycles. The speaker also mentions solving a related problem where it was proven that both fg and gf fix the same number of elements, thanks to a 1:1 mapping between fixed points in fg and gf. This mapping also seems to generalize to a 1:1 mapping between disjoint cycles. It is suggested that this could be used to prove the original statement. However, the speaker realizes that this may be a homework problem and
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I'm trying to show that for two permutations f ang g in Sn, the number of disjoint cycles in fg is the same as the number of disjoint cycles in gf. I know that in general fg does not equal gf, but by working examples it seems like they always decompose into the same number of disjoint cycles. Is this even true? Can anyone find a counterexample?

I solved the related problem of showing that fg and gf both fix the same number of elements. This is true because fg fixes x if and only if gf fixes g(x), and g is a bijection.
 
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Oops -- I posted a full solution here and then realized ... this is a homework problem, isn't it? At least it sure sounds like one.

So here's a piece of a solution. Should get you started!

samkolb said:
I solved the related problem of showing that fg and gf both fix the same number of elements. This is true because fg fixes x if and only if gf fixes g(x), and g is a bijection.

It seems like your 1:1 mapping between fixed points in fg and gf generalizes to a 1:1 mapping between disjoint cycles, too. In particular, note that

[tex]
(f \circ g)^n = f \circ g \circ f \circ ... \circ g
[/tex]

while

[tex]
(g \circ f)^n = g \circ f \circ g \circ ... \circ f
[/tex]

So, if (fg)n carries x to itself, where does (gf)n carry g(x)?

'Nuff said.
 
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1. What is a permutation?

A permutation is a way of arranging a set of objects or numbers in a specific order. It is a rearrangement of the elements of the set, where each element occurs exactly once.

2. What is a cycle in a permutation?

A cycle in a permutation is a sequence of elements that are permuted within the set. It represents a movement of elements within the permutation, where the first element is moved to the position of the second element, the second element is moved to the position of the third element, and so on until the last element is moved to the position of the first element.

3. How do you count cycles in a permutation?

To count cycles in a permutation, you can follow these steps:1. Start at the first element in the permutation and note down its position.2. Look for the element in that position and note down its position.3. Continue this process until you reach the first element again.4. The number of elements you have noted down is the number of elements in the cycle.5. Repeat this process for all other elements in the permutation.6. The total number of cycles in the permutation is the number of times you have gone through this process.

4. Can a permutation have more than one cycle?

Yes, a permutation can have multiple cycles. The number of cycles in a permutation depends on the number of disjoint cycles, which are cycles that do not have any elements in common. Therefore, a permutation can have as many cycles as there are disjoint cycles in the permutation.

5. What is the significance of counting cycles in a permutation?

Counting cycles in a permutation can help in understanding the structure and properties of the permutation. It also helps in solving mathematical problems related to permutations, such as finding the order of a permutation or determining if two permutations are equivalent. Additionally, counting cycles can be used in various fields such as computer science, cryptography, and statistics.

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