Create a Medieval Fountain Without Electricity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of medieval-style fountains without the use of electricity. Participants explore various methods and historical contexts related to water movement and fountain operation during the Middle Ages.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that medieval fountains may have utilized artesian wells to leverage natural water pressure for elevation.
  • Another proposes that fountains could be supplied with water flowing downhill, which is a simpler method if the terrain allows for it.
  • A different viewpoint mentions the possibility of using a water-wheel as a mechanical means to pump water.
  • Concerns are raised about the historical accuracy of depictions of fountains, noting that they often appear as standalone structures without visible pumping mechanisms.
  • One participant references the Alhambra's fountains, indicating that gravity and water pressure were key to their operation, suggesting the need for nearby mountain streams or natural water sources.
  • A participant humorously suggests that if natural sources are unavailable, a large supply of peasants could be used, though this is met with light-hearted responses about the impracticality of such a solution.
  • Another participant mentions the use of windmills or water rams as potential methods to raise water, acknowledging the losses involved in these processes.
  • There is a consensus that medieval fountains were likely flow-through systems fed by springs, artesian wells, dams, and aqueducts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of ideas regarding the methods to create a fountain without electricity, with no clear consensus on a single approach. Multiple competing views remain on the historical operation of these fountains and the feasibility of suggested methods.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their understanding of historical practices and the specific conditions required for different fountain designs, such as terrain and water source availability.

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Hello,
During the middle ages they had fountains, but they didn't have electricity. I tried to recreate one on a smaller scale, but I couldn't figure out how to get the water to pump back up without electricity. Does anyone know how to do this?
Thanks.
 
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I suspect, although I'm not sure, that these were based upon Artesian wells, wherein the water pressure from underground is high enough to provide its own pumping to an above-surface reservois.
 
Another guess would be that they just fed water that was going downhill into the fountain.
 
Good point, Sir Squirrel. That's an easier way to do it, if such a supply is available. I hadn't thought of it because I was envisioning a flat environment.
 
I can't believe I didn't think about that. Thanks a lot!
 
Pumps have been around a looooong time. There are lots of ways that it can be done. A simple water-wheel will do it.
 
True, Russ, but the pictures that I've seen of these things generally show them as stand-alone fixtures in the middle of a town square. There's no evidence of external pumping apparatus. Granted, they're wood-cut printings, but those do tend to be historically accurate.
 
"Fountains throughout the Alhambra spurt water propelled by gravity and water pressure. Without the aid of electricity, the water flows continuously through a labyrinth of complex underground channels"

So, I guess you just need mountain streams close at hand. Or if you have no natural sources then I suppose a large supply of peasants. :devil:
 
H_man said:
So, I guess you just need mountain streams close at hand. Or if you have no natural sources then I suppose a large supply of peasants. :devil:
No, you'd see the lumpiness of bodies in the water. Definitely just water going through those fountains.:approve:
 
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Yeah... those peasants had a rought time. :smile:
 
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H_man said:
Or if you have no natural sources then I suppose a large supply of peasants. :devil:
Unfortunately I don't have a large supply of peasants.:smile:
 
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You can have some of mine. It's getting too expensive to feed them.
 
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GeekyGuy said:
Hello,
During the middle ages they had fountains, but they didn't have electricity. I tried to recreate one on a smaller scale, but I couldn't figure out how to get the water to pump back up without electricity. Does anyone know how to do this?
Thanks.
Don't feel too bad GeekyGuy, I was 5 years old before I realized toilets weren't electric. :redface:
 
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A windmill can pump it back up hill, somewhat. Or, if you have a good flowing stream nearby you might use a water ram to raise the water first. There are losses of course. Entropy rules!

As far as I know the medieval fountains were/are flow through. Fed by springs, artesian wells, dams and aqueducts.
 

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