Dark Matter: 6-Quark Particle?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothesis of a 6-quark particle as a potential candidate for dark matter. Participants explore the implications of this idea, its testability, and its compatibility with existing cosmological observations and theories, including big bang nucleosynthesis and the cosmic microwave background.

Discussion Character

  • Speculative, Debate/contested, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the viability of the 6-quark particle as a dark matter candidate, questioning its undetected status and the lack of discussion on its implications for baryonic matter.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the particle's charged nature, which suggests it should interact with light, thus contradicting the definition of dark matter.
  • One participant mentions that the idea of these particles forming a Bose-Einstein condensate before big bang nucleosynthesis could explain their undetected status, although this is debated.
  • Another participant questions whether hexaquarks could remain "dark" given their strong interactions, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the argument.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the plausibility of the 6-quark particle as a dark matter candidate, with multiple competing views regarding its properties and implications for existing cosmological models.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the original hypothesis, including assumptions about particle interactions and the lack of clarity on how these particles would fit within established frameworks of baryonic matter and dark matter.

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We know the total amount of baryonic matter from big bang nucleosynthesis and the cosmic microwave background. I don't see how such an addition could have stayed undetected. The authors don't discuss this at all, which is a bad sign.
 
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This requires that a particle that is only seen (and not very cleanly at that) in one experiment be real, and also to form a condensate that increases its lifetime by forty orders of magnitude. Furthermore, the authors don't even discuss the impact of this idea on BBN, the most powerful constraint on hadronic candidates.
 
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I don't quite understand how this could be a dark matter candidate as it is made up of charged particles (quarks) thus should interact with light ... which, by definition, makes it matter not dark matter
 
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AndyG said:
I don't quite understand how this could be a dark matter candidate as it is made up of charged particles (quarks) thus should interact with light ... which, by definition, makes it matter not dark matter
Neutron has a magnetic dipole moment but no charge. Plenty of nuclei have no dipole moment.
If a nucleus were stable and had no charge, how much cross-section would it have to scatter photons elastically? To scatter other nuclei strongly?
 
Neutron has no charge but does consist of quarks and does interact with light (and other matter) ...
 
mfb said:
We know the total amount of baryonic matter from big bang nucleosynthesis and the cosmic microwave background. I don't see how such an addition could have stayed undetected. The authors don't discuss this at all, which is a bad sign.
I'm not defending the hypothesis, but I think the idea is that these Bose-Einstein condensates of hexaquarks condensed out before big bang nucleosynthesis. Then they would not impact the total amount of baryonic matter we see from BBN or the CMB.
 
I didn't get the impression that they would be bound enough to not matter during BBN.
 
But hexaquarks are still strongly interacting guys and thus everything else than "dark", or do I miss something in the argument?
 

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