MHB DE 20 ty'+(t+1)y=t y(\ln{2}=1, t>0

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#20 this is the last one of the set
$ty'+(t+1)y=t \quad y(\ln{2}=1,\quad t>0$
rewrite
$y'+\left(\dfrac{t+1}{t}\right)y=1$
$u(t)=e^{\displaystyle\int\dfrac{t+1}{t}dt}=e^{t+\ln |t|}$well anyway wasn't sure about the (t+1):cool:
 
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karush said:
#20 this is the last one of the set
$ty'+(t+1)y=t \quad y(\ln{2}=1,\quad t>0$
rewrite
$y'+\left(\dfrac{t+1}{t}\right)y=1$
$u(t)=e^{\displaystyle\int\dfrac{t+1}{t}dt}=e^{t+\ln |t|}$well anyway wasn't sure about the (t+1):cool:

The integrating factor is correct, but again, simplify it so you can integrate.

$\displaystyle \mathrm{e}^{t + \ln{(t)}} = \mathrm{e}^{\ln{(t)}}\,\mathrm{e}^t = t\,\mathrm{e}^t $
 
ok is that the reason e is used so much?

Ill continue in the morning...:cool:
 
Is what the reason "e" is used so much? "e^x" has the nice property that the derivative of e^x is just e^x again! Also any exponential can be written as "e": a^x= e^{ln(a^x)}= e^{x ln(a)}.

Those are the reasons "e" is used so much.
 
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The integrating factor is correct, but again, simplify it so you can integrate.

$\displaystyle \mathrm{e}^{t + \ln{(t)}} = \mathrm{e}^{\ln{(t)}}\,\mathrm{e}^t = t\,\mathrm{e}^t $
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$\displaystyle u(t)={e}^{t + \ln{(t)}} = {e}^{\ln{(t)}}\,{e}^t = t\,{e}^t $
so
$(t\,{e}^t )ty'+(t\,{e}^t )(t+1)y=(t\,{e}^t )t$
Ok not sure way to rewrite this due to the (t+1) thot could divide by $t^2$

here are book answersView attachment 9711
 

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$ty' + (t+1) \cdot y = t$

divide every term by $t$ ...

$y' + \dfrac{t+1}{t} \cdot y = 1$

multiply every term by $te^t$ ...

$te^t \cdot y' + (t+1)e^t \cdot y = te^t$

$(te^t \cdot y)' = te^t$

$\displaystyle te^t \cdot y = \int te^t \, dt$

keep going ...
 
skeeter said:
$ty' + (t+1) \cdot y = t$
divide every term by $t$ ...
$y' + \dfrac{t+1}{t} \cdot y = 1$
multiply every term by $te^t$ ...
$te^t \cdot y' + (t+1)e^t \cdot y = te^t$
$(te^t \cdot y)' = te^t$
$\displaystyle te^t \cdot y = \int te^t \, dt$
keep going ...

IBP
$e^tt-e^t +c$
so
$ te^t \cdot y=e^tt-e^t +c$
then
$y=\dfrac{e^tt}{te^t}-\dfrac{e^t }{te^t}+\dfrac{c}{te^t}
=1-\dfrac{1}{t}+\dfrac{c}{te^t}$hopefully
 
keep going, apply the initial condition to determine $C$
 
skeeter said:
keep going, apply the initial condition to determine $C$

$y=\dfrac{e^tt}{te^t}-\dfrac{e^t }{te^t}+\dfrac{c}{te^t}
=1-\dfrac{1}{t}+\dfrac{c}{te^t}=\dfrac{(t-1+(c)e^{-t})}{t}$$y(\ln 2)=1-\dfrac{1}{\ln 2}+\dfrac{c}{2\ln 2}$
$c=2$
so the book answer is $y=\dfrac{(t-1+2e^{-t})}{t},\quad t\ne 0$
 
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karush said:
$y=\dfrac{e^tt}{te^t}-\dfrac{e^t }{te^t}+\dfrac{c}{te^t}
=1-\dfrac{1}{t}+\dfrac{c}{te^t}=\dfrac{(t-1+(c)e^{-t})}{t}$$y(\ln 2)=1-\dfrac{1}{\ln 2}+\dfrac{c}{2\ln 2}$
$c=2$
so the book answer is $y=\dfrac{(t-1+2e^{-t})}{t},\quad t\ne 0$

Come on, surely you can see several common factors that cancel. I don't know why you seem to want to keep around difficult looking terms. The reason it's called "simplifying" is because it literally makes the expressions simpler!
 
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it's not that easy to see
 

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