Defining an upper/lower bound in lexicographically ordered C.

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The discussion centers on the concept of upper bounds within the lexicographically ordered set of complex numbers ℂ. The subset A is defined as A = {z ∈ ℂ: z = a+bi; a,b ∈ ℝ, a<0}. The upper bound α is expressed as 0+di, leading to the inquiry whether only the real part Re(α) = 0 is significant for defining the upper bound, or if the imaginary part Im(α) = d also plays a role. The conclusion drawn is that while the real part is crucial, the existence of infinitely many complex numbers with the same real part but varying imaginary parts indicates that the lexicographic order lacks a least upper bound.

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If I have a lexicographic ordering on ℂ, and I define a subset, A = \{z \in ℂ: z = a+bi; a,b \in ℝ, a&lt;0\}.

I have an upper bound, say α = 0+di. My question is does only the real part, Re(α) = 0 define the upper bound? Or does the Im(α) = d have nothing to do with bounds in general?

Since it seems to me if I have the lexicographic ordering on ℂ such as for any two m,n \in ℂ, where m = a+bi and n = c+di and I define the ordering as m<n if a<c or if a=c and b<d.

The last bit, b<d gives me the impression that Im(α) would play a role in the upper bound. The reason I am asking is because in a proof I read, they prove this order has no least upper bound as there are infinitely many complex numbers with their real parts equal to Re(α) but different imaginary parts. So, I guess if only the real parts of complex numbers define the bounds then it makes sense to me.
 
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If I have a lexicographic ordering on ℂ, and I define a subset, A = \{z \in ℂ: z = a+bi; a,b \in ℝ, a&lt;0\}.

I have an upper bound, say α = 0+di. My question is does only the real part, Re(α) = 0 define the upper bound? Or does the Im(α) = d have nothing to do with bounds in general?

Since it seems to me if I have the lexicographic ordering on ℂ such as for any two m,n \in ℂ, where m = a+bi and n = c+di and I define the ordering as m<n if a<c or if a=c and b<d.

The last bit, b<d gives me the impression that Im(α) would play a role in the upper bound. The reason I am asking is because in a proof I read, they prove this order has no least upper bound as there are infinitely many complex numbers with their real parts equal to Re(α) but different imaginary parts. So, I guess if only the real parts of complex numbers define the bounds then it makes sense to me.

A least upper bound has to be a specific number with the LUB property. In this case there is no such number, since there are lots of upper bounds but none of them is the smallest.
 

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