Delayed choice with photons - impossible?

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The discussion centers on the concept of delayed choice experiments involving photons, particularly the implications of Lorentz-Fitzgerald contraction and time dilation. It asserts that from a photon's perspective, there is no distance or time between emission and absorption events, challenging the interpretation of experimental outcomes in quantum mechanics. The author argues that while experimenters may influence the detection of photons, this influence does not alter the photon's experience of space-time, leading to the conclusion that the experimenter's actions result in different photon connections rather than changes to the original photon itself.

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I have long been puzzled by the whole idea of delayed choice experiments with photons.

In a photon's frame of reference there is no distance traveled between emission and absorption; the distance has contracted (Lorentz-Fitzgerald) to zero. More relevantly there is no time duration either (dilated to stand-still). As far as the photon is concerned there is no time interval during which anything could possibly change. Some experiments in quantum mechanics use a double-slit interferometer in which experimenters claim to change the type of detector after a photon has encountered the slits but before it reaches a detector. The experimenters' actions clearly do have an effect, explicable in terms of quantum mechanics. While this may seem fine in an experimenter's reference frame it clearly makes no sense in the frame of each photon and so such experiments need reinterpreting.

Considering one photon, two events exist in space-time: the emission and absorption events. An experimenter may feel that he has affected the 4-position of the second event during the flight of a photon but from the photon's point of view he cannot. Even if, from the experimenter's point of view, the photon was emitted in a distant galaxy, the photon "sees" only an instantaneous transfer between two events which must, from its point of view, therefore be adjacent. If the experimenter has any influence (but let's not get into discussions about free will) it is to cause a different photon connection between events even though, from his point of view, the emission event may have been in the distant past. In other words, the experimenter's choice causes a different photon to exist. This may seem shocking: the experimenter causes a different photon connection between events that appear to have been initiated a long time ago. Nevertheless it is consistent in space-time.

How else can we make any sense of such experiments?

This problem does not arise for particles with mass because they cannot reach the speed of light and so their paths will always have some duration.
 
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I think the problem is that photons do not have a frame. Even if you were in the photons frame, it MUST travel at c, so it cannot have a frame for you to be in. (Frame meaning rest frame which is what is meant when talking about different frames of reference)
 

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