Delimma: Need advice from industry's point of view

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The discussion revolves around the career prospects and educational choices for a student completing a degree in Applied Physics, specifically in relation to pursuing a minor in Electronic Engineering or a major in Electronic Engineering. The focus includes considerations of job opportunities in the semiconductor industry and the impact of age on employability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that an engineering degree is essential for working as an engineer, implying that without it, job prospects may be limited.
  • Another participant notes that age is unlikely to be a significant factor in job acquisition, particularly with co-op experience included in the education path.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that there are roles for applied physicists in the semiconductor industry, particularly in technology development, but emphasizes that there are many more electrical engineers than applied physicists in this field.
  • It is mentioned that having a bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering may provide a better chance of employment compared to having a minor or just a degree in Applied Physics.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitive nature of job applications, with a suggestion that graduate degrees are often preferred for technology development roles in large semiconductor companies.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of an engineering degree for job prospects in the semiconductor industry. While some argue that an engineering degree is crucial, others point out that applied physicists can also find opportunities, indicating a lack of consensus on the best educational path.

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Participants discuss the implications of age on job prospects without reaching a definitive conclusion. The conversation reflects varying assumptions about the value of different degrees in the semiconductor industry and the competitive landscape for job seekers.

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Hi,

I am currently completing my degree in Applied Physics (starting 4th year) with the hope to work in Semi Conductors industry and computer world (research or engineering or both). My school is offering the following courses for my degree:

http://students.sfu.ca/calendar/physics/appld_phys_hon.html

I am not planning to apply for Honours, but do plan to take the course loads for the knowledge. The program gives me the option to also take followings in addition to Semi Conductor Physics, Solid State Physics, Modern Optics Physics, Electromagnetic Waves:

ENSC 426: High Freq. Electronics; ENSC 495: Introduction to Microelectronic Fabrication; ENSC 330: Material Science;

My school also does offer an Engineering Minor in Computer and Electronics Design:
http://students.sfu.ca/calendar/engineering_science/computer_electr_design_min.html

While at it, here is what a MAJOR in Electronic Engineering requires: (in short, i have to do 5 extra first year easy class stuff + mandatory co-op for atleast 3 semesters.)
http://students.sfu.ca/calendar/engineering_science/ensc_maj_elec_eng_option.html

My delimma:

At the moment, I am 25 years old. If I complete the minor, I will be graduating in Dec of 2013. If I dont, I will graduate in Dec of 2012 in age of 26.

I personally like to do the minor simply because it could go well with my research and love for electronics and computers. But the question is, will it give me any edge when it comes to getting a job? Can i get a job as an engineer?

On the other hand, if I do the Major in Engineering as well (Double Major in Applied Physics and Electronic Engineering), I will be 28 by the time I have graduated due to mandatory 1 year long co-op. The question is, Will I have a better chance compare to minor? Will my age prevent me the job?

I guess, is it worth the Major or Minor or should I just stick with Applied Physics?


Thanks in advance
 
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In my view, if you want to work as an engineer, you're going to have a hard time unless you have an engineering degree.

Think of your question this way: do you want to be 28 and have an engineering degree, or do you want to be 28 without an engineering degree?

Your age won't be a big factor, I think, especially with the co-op.
 
There are jobs in the semiconductor industry for applied physicists, mainly in technology development. These people push the designs of transistors and other circuit elements, making them smaller and perform better. The job never ends, because each new process node (feature shrink) requires the whole process to be done over again.

That said, there are probably 100 EEs for every applied physicist in large semiconductor companies. You'll find it much easier to get a job with an EE degree, especially a bachelor's. All of the technology development people I've known have had graduate degrees.

- Warren
 

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