Delta function and dirac notation

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The discussion revolves around the normalization of delta functions in the context of Dirac notation, specifically addressing the claims about the inner products involving delta functions and their implications for normalization in quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that ##=1## and ##=0##, while questioning the validity of these claims based on their understanding of delta functions.
  • Another participant agrees that #### is actually infinity, suggesting that it is better to consider it as undefined due to the behavior of delta functions.
  • A participant challenges the normalization of the function ##ψ(x)=δ(x-a)+δ(x-a)##, indicating that the normalization using ##=1## is incorrect because it approaches infinity.
  • It is proposed that the square of a delta function does not exist, and thus normalization of distributions like delta functions may not be meaningful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the normalization of delta functions, with some asserting that it leads to infinity while others suggest it is undefined. There is no consensus on how to properly normalize the function in question.

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Participants note that the normalization of distributions is problematic and that the square of a delta function does not exist, which complicates the discussion further.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, mathematical physics, or anyone looking to understand the properties and implications of delta functions in theoretical contexts.

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Hello there !
I found this discussion http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...a-delta-function-position-space-wave-function about dirac notation and delta function .
The one that answers to the problem says that ##<a|a>=1## and ##<a|-a>=0## .
As far as i know:
1) ##<a|-a>=δ(a-(-a))## which in this case is zero because delta function is zero everywhere except ##x=-a## where it goes to infinity. So i understand why this is zero.
2) ##<a|a>=δ(a-a) → ∞ ## and not 1 . Am I wrong and this ##<a|a>## is obviously 1. Can you explain me please?
 
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KostasV said:
The one that answers to the problem says that ##<a|a>=1## and ##<a|-a>=0## .

You are correct - it is infinity. Strictly speaking its undefined, but is usually taken as infinity. The issue with infinity and why its better to have it undefined is c∂(t) is also zero when t is not zero and infinity when t = 0 for any positive c. So, naively, c'∂(t) = c∂(t) for any positive c or c'. But it acts differently when integrated.

Thanks
Bill
 
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So it is wrong to normalize the function with the two delta functions that he gives using ##<a|a>=1## because it actually goes to infinity.
So how could we normalize ##ψ(x)=δ(x-a)+δ(x-a)## in a correct way ?
 
KostasV said:
So it is wrong to normalize the function with the two delta functions that he gives using ##<a|a>=1## because it actually goes to infinity. So how could we normalize ##ψ(x)=δ(x-a)+δ(x-a)## in a correct way ?

They are distributions - normalisation makes no sense. The square of a delta function doesn't exist.

I suggest getting hold of the following:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521558905/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It will help in many areas of applied math not just QM.

Thanks
Bill
 
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Thank you for your response :)
 

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