Derivation of Metric for 3-Sphere Embedded in 4-Space

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The metric for a 3-sphere embedded in 4-space is derived as ds² = dr² + R² sin²(r/R)(dθ² + sin²θ dφ²), where r is the distance from a pole and R is the radius of curvature. The derivation utilizes transformations w = Rcosχ, z = Rsinχcosθ, x = Rsinχsinθcosφ, and y = Rsinχsinθsinφ, followed by implicit differentiation and algebraic manipulation. The author realizes that the derivation does not explicitly invoke the condition of a 3-sphere, leading to insights about coordinate transformations and the nature of metrics in curved spaces.

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Show that the metric for a 3-sphere embedded in 4-space is:

ds^2=dr^2+R^2 sin^2(\frac{r}{R})(d\theta^2+sin^2\theta d\phi^2)

r is the distance from some "pole" and R is the radius of curvature of the 3-sphere.

My question:

I showed this by using the transformations (as suggested by the professor):

w=Rcos\chi
z=Rsin\chi cos\theta
x=Rsin\chi sin\theta cos\phi
y=Rsin\chi sin\theta sin\phi
r=R\chi

So, all I did was differentiate w, z, x, and y implicitly using all the product rules so that:

dw=-Rsin\chi d\chi
dz=R(cos\chi cos\theta d\chi - sin\chi sin\theta d\theta)
dx=R(cos\chi sin\theta cos\phi d\chi + sin\chi cos\theta cos\phi d\theta - sin\chi sin\theta sin\phi d\phi)
dy=R(cos\chi sin\theta sin\phi d\chi + sin\chi cos\theta sin\phi d\theta + sin\chi sin\theta cos\phi d\phi)<br />

Ok. So, I squared each and set:
ds^2=dw^2+dx^2+dy^2+dz^2
After a lot of algebra, Lo, and behold I got exactly what my professor asked for!

I was overjoyed.

And then I got to thinking. Nowhere in my solution have I even invoked any condition that I am working on a 3-sphere. In fact, my metric before the coordinate transform is for flat space!

This leads me to think that all I have done is a coordinate transformation and NOT finding the metric of a 3-sphere. I tried the same method in just 2 dimensions going from Cartesian coordinates to Polar coordinates and I in fact got back the flat-space metric in polar coordinates.

So...my questions is...how the heck did I arrive at the metric for a 3-sphere embedded in 4-space WITHOUT even invoking the condition of a 3-sphere? How did I get to this metric by just doing a coordinate transformation!?

I refuse to believe that I just made a mistake somewhere and MIRACULOUSLY I got the right answer...There must be something I'm missing here.

Please help! Thanks.
 
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Shouldn't the metric of \mathbb R^4 expressed in these coordinates contain a dR2 term? The last step is just to throw that term away, like you would throw away the dz2 from dx2+dy2+dz2 to get the metric for \mathbb R^2 from the metric for \mathbb R^3. (This isn't the most rigorous argument in the world, but at least in physics books, I think it's standard to just do these things without explanation).

When you latex sin and cos, write them as \sin and \cos. It will look better.
 
lol, thinking this over, I think I get what happened...and it's actually quite obvious.

I assumed R was constant! LOL If I just wanted to do a coordinate transformation, I would have worried about dx/dR, dy/dR, etc terms. Therefore, I restricted myself to a 3-sphere. Also, on the infinitessimal level, the distance in a "straight" line is the same as the distance over a curved surface. Therefore, the derivation is valid.

I see that this is also what Fredrik was saying...but I didn't understand at the time.

I'll keep the latex hint in mind for future reference, thanks. =)
 

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