Derivatives and Linear transformations

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In the discussion about derivatives and linear transformations, the main focus is on finding a differentiable function f from a non-empty open connected set G in Rn into R, given that its derivative f'(a) equals a linear transformation A for all a in G. The conclusion is that f can be expressed as f(x) = Ax + c, where c is a constant, since any function with the same derivative in G must differ only by a constant due to the connectedness of G. There is a clarification on terminology, distinguishing between the derivative and the differential, with some participants noting that the linear transformation approximating a function at a point is often referred to as the derivative. The conversation highlights the importance of precise definitions in mathematical discussions, particularly regarding derivatives and differentials. Overall, the thread emphasizes the relationship between a function's derivative and its linear transformation representation.
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Let G be a non-empty open connected set in Rn, f be a differentiable function from G into R, and A be a linear transformation from Rn to R. If f '(a)=A for all a in G, find f and prove your answer.

I thought of f as being the same as the linear transformation, i.e. f(x)=A(x). Is this true?
 
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raghad said:
I thought of f as being the same as the linear transformation, i.e. f(x)=A(x). Is this true?
No, but observe: f'(x) = (\frac{\partial f}{\partial x_{1}}, \frac{\partial f}{\partial x_{2}}, \dotso , \frac{\partial f}{\partial x_{n}}) and since A is linear, A=(a_{1}, a_{2}, \dotso , a_{n}). Therefore \frac{\partial f}{\partial x_{1}}=a_{1} etc. SInce all ak are constants, ...
 
is a function uniquely determined by its derivative?
 
mathwonk said:
is a function uniquely determined by its derivative?
Of course not - g(x) and g(x)+C have the same derivatives. I am a mathematician - I leave the details as an exercise for the student.
 
In general, with f a function from, say, Rn to Rm, we can define the derivative of f, at point p in Rn as "the linear transformation, from Rn to Rm that best approximates f in some neighborhood of p".

To make that "best approximates f" more precise, note that we can write any function, f, as f(x)= A(x- p)+ D(x) where A is a linear transformation and D(x) has the property that the limit, as x approaches p, of D(x)/||x- p|| is 0. Then A is the "derivative of f at p".
 
HallsofIvy said:
In general, with f a function from, say, Rn to Rm, we can define the derivative of f, at point p in Rn as "the linear transformation, from Rn to Rm that best approximates f in some neighborhood of p".

To make that "best approximates f" more precise, note that we can write any function, f, as f(x)= A(x- p)+ D(x) where A is a linear transformation and D(x) has the property that the limit, as x approaches p, of D(x)/||x- p|| is 0. Then A is the "derivative of f at p".
That's where it gets confusing: some call it the differential.
 
WWGD said:
That's where it gets confusing: some call it the differential.
Really? I've never heard someone call it the differential. As far as I know, the linear transformation that best approximates a function at a given point is always called the derivative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fréchet_derivative)

To answer the OP, it is almost true, you're just missing the constant. The answer is f(x) = Ax + c. The linear transformation that best approximates this f is clearly A, in other words f'(a) = A for every element in G. And since G is connected, any other function with derivative equal to A in G, must differ only by a constant.
 
Xiuh said:
Really? I've never heard someone call it the differential. As far as I know, the linear transformation that best approximates a function at a given point is always called the derivative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fréchet_derivative)

To answer the OP, it is almost true, you're just missing the constant. The answer is f(x) = Ax + c. The linear transformation that best approximates this f is clearly A, in other words f'(a) = A for every element in G. And since G is connected, any other function with derivative equal to A in G, must differ only by a constant.
I think that A as a function is usually called, in my experience, the differential. Once you plug in numbers , it is called the derivative in this layout, so that, e.g., for ##f(x)=x^2##, ##2x## is the differential, but the derivative at a fixed ##x_0## is ##2x_0##.
 
No. If f(x)= x2, the derivative is df/dx= 2x. The "differential" is df= 2xdx.
And, as you say, the "derivative at fixed x0" is 2x0.
 
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It would help if you quoted actual definitions: the differential is the best linear map approximating the local change of the function near the point. The derivative is the rate of change (modulo higher dimensions).
 
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WWGD said:
I think that A as a function is usually called, in my experience, the differential. Once you plug in numbers , it is called the derivative in this layout, so that, e.g., for ##f(x)=x^2##, ##2x## is the differential, but the derivative at a fixed ##x_0## is ##2x_0##.

HallsofIvy said:
No. If f(x)= x2, the derivative is df/dx= 2x. The "differential" is df= 2xdx.
And, as you say, the "derivative at fixed x0" is 2x0.
I agree with Halls here, and would add only "differential of f."

If f is a function of two variables, say z = f(x, y), then the differential of f (also called the total differential of f) is ##df = \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}dy##.
 
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Mark44 said:
I agree with Halls here, and would add only "differential of f."

If f is a function of two variables, say z = f(x, y), then the differential of f (also called the total differential of f) is ##df = \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx + \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}dy##.

Yes, I corrected myself in my post after that one.
 
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what used to be called the Frechet derivative some 50 years ago, e.g. in Dieudonne's Foundations of modern analysis, is now usually called the differential.
 

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