Deriving the Characteristic Function of the Gaussian Distribution

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the characteristic function of the Gaussian distribution, focusing on the mathematical steps involved and clarifications needed for understanding the relationships between different expressions. The context includes theoretical and mathematical reasoning relevant to probability and statistics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on a specific step in the derivation, particularly how an expression transitions from exp(-o^2w^2/2) to exp(-x^2/2o^2).
  • Another participant explains the expected value of a function of a random variable, providing the integral form for clarity.
  • A different participant points out an error in the derivation, claiming that an x^2 term should be just "x" in a specific line.
  • Some participants argue that the original question does not state the equivalence of the two expressions in question, emphasizing that the task is to prove the characteristic function of the Gaussian distribution.
  • There is a reiteration that the Gaussian distribution can be expressed in a different form, highlighting the distinction between the functions involved.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of the derivation steps and the interpretation of the problem statement. There is no consensus on the specific mathematical claims, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the derivation and the relationships between the expressions.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions and relationships of the functions involved, as well as unresolved mathematical steps in the derivation process.

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hello, can someone look at my problem and tell me how to get to the arrow?
thank you so much..
i am studying for my midterm and i have no clue where it come from.
thanks
 

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That first line you point to is basically just the definition of how you find the "expected value" of a function.

That is, if a random variable X has a pdf (probability density function) of f(x) then the expected value of x can be written as,

E(x) = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} x f(x) dx

And more generally the expected value of a function of x can be written as,

E(\, \phi(x)\, ) = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \phi(x) f(x) dx
 
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BTW, there's an error in that derivation. The x^2 term that appears in the first square bracketed term in line 4 (2nd line under the completing the square heading) should be just "x" (not squared). This error is carried all the way through the derivation BTW.
 
yeah.i understand that part..
but how does exp(-o^2w^2/2) = exp(-x^2/2o^2)?
the arrow...
 
tuanle007 said:
yeah.i understand that part..
but how does exp(-o^2w^2/2) = exp(-x^2/2o^2)?
the arrow...

What? It never says that anywhere. The question says to prove that,

\Phi(\omega) = exp(-\sigma^2 \omega^2 /2)

You must be misreading it because nowhere does it claim the thing you state.
 
tuanle007 said:
yeah.i understand that part..
but how does exp(-o^2w^2/2) = exp(-x^2/2o^2)?
the arrow...

It doesn't say that. It says that you are to prove that the [/b]characteristic function[/b] for the the Gaussian distribution is
e^{\frac{-\sigma^2\omega^2}{2}}[/itex]<br /> and them immediately uses the fact that the Gaussian distribution (with mean 0) itself can be written as <br /> e^{\frac{-x^2}{2\sigma^2}<br /> <br /> Those are two completely different functions.
 

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