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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how to describe a person's honesty and the appropriate use of adverbs in recommendations for organizations, schools, or companies. Participants explore nuances in language and the implications of different word choices in the context of recommendations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that "he seems honest" implies a personal acquaintance, while "he looks honest" is based on appearance, and "maybe he is honest" expresses uncertainty.
  • There is a request for clarification on the use of adverbs like "probably," "likely," "may," and "possibly" in the context of describing someone's character.
  • One participant expresses concern about using these adverbs correctly, citing examples related to the word "murder." They seek guidance on the differences in meaning and usage.
  • Another participant believes that all the adverbial phrases convey similar meanings and asks for a ranking based on likelihood.
  • Discussion includes the challenge of writing recommendation letters, particularly regarding how to convey trustworthiness without direct knowledge of the person being recommended.
  • Concerns are raised about native speakers' perceptions of subtle differences in adverb usage that may not be apparent to non-native speakers.
  • A participant points out that the original poster's phrasing contains errors that they would not typically make in their native language, suggesting a need for careful language use.
  • Another participant discusses the connotations of the adverbs, suggesting that while they are synonyms, they carry different implications in specific contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nuances of adverb usage and the implications of various phrases. There is no consensus on a definitive ranking of the adverbs or their meanings, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best way to articulate recommendations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential for misunderstanding the subtleties of language among non-native speakers and the challenge of conveying trustworthiness in recommendations without personal knowledge of the individual.

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1. He seems honest
2. He looks honest
3. Maybe he is hosnest


What is the difference between them ?:blushing: Second, in order to recommend someone to some organizations/schools/companies, what words/statements you would use to describe him so that he can get the job/bonus/an increase in salary/or be accepted, etc.? (I want to write something to introduce my friends to some big boys :blushing: )

Thanks :wink: yaye, i am not a native please bear with my awful use of the language
 
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Well the first one somewhat implies that the speaker kinda knows the person they are talking about and feels that the person is probably a honest person. The second one means that the speaker believes the person is honest based solely on looks (which is odd). The third one is the speaker saying that he/she does not really know whether the person is honest or not and is simply stating that the person could or could not be honest.
 
Thanks, how about the second question ?

I still have some questions. These uses of adverbs are not listed in my dictionaries, I have a lot.

1.He is probably a murder
2.He is likely a murder
3.He may be a murder
4.Possibly he is a murder


I am afraid I will use those adverbs incorrectly, so I would like to ask you in advance. Thanks for your kind answers. God blesses you all!
 
But I think all of them are the same, could zoo again put them in order from highest to lowest possibility ?
 
By the way, usually, a student is not allowed to read recommendation letter from his/her teacher, I wonder how I can write one for the schools to believe in the one to be introduced.
I know writing something like that must be hard. if someone could tell me what points are to be taken seriously...
 
Native speakers use them daily but why they don't feel a thing about the differences in what they are talking about ?
 
In your four questions you are making a baby mistake you would never make in your own language.
 
zoobyshoe said:
In your four questions you are making a baby mistake you would never make in your own language.
So how would you give percentage of use to each of them in order anyway ?
 
I think the problem here is connotation. To a native english speaker, these adverbs carry small differences when used this way. Their definitions may all be very similar and they may very well be synonyms, but they carry slightly different meanings when used certain ways.

In my opinion,
2. states the strongest case of him being a murderer (someone who commits murder- this may be what zoobyshoe was talking about).
1. second strongest
3 & 4 are next, though they are saying the same thing in my mind.

My interpretation, though, is subject to many factors and may not be the standard interpretation in California.
 

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