Designing a world based of the four Greek elements

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The discussion revolves around the design of a fictional world based on the four Greek elements—earth, air, water, fire—and an additional element, H'teal, which involves the transfer and absorption of biological energy. Participants explore the implications of these elements in relation to the Standard Model of particle physics, particularly focusing on the powers associated with controlling fundamental particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, James, describes a world where characters have powers over the strong nuclear force, allowing them to manipulate atoms akin to alchemy, while questioning the powers associated with controlling photons and electrons.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the relationship between the five elements and Standard Model particles, questioning whether the elements are fundamental in this universe.
  • James clarifies that the five elements represent the main characters who control various materials and states of matter, while acknowledging that the principles of the Standard Model still apply in his universe.
  • A humorous contribution suggests combinations of elements, such as Earth + Air = Smog and Fire + Water = Tequila, without delving into the scientific implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit confusion and differing interpretations regarding the integration of the Greek elements with the Standard Model of particle physics. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on how these concepts interact.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions about the nature of the elements and their relationship to fundamental particles, as well as the scope of powers attributed to characters in this fictional universe.

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Hey, didn't know where to turn and thought this might be a good start.

I've been designing a world for the last six years based of the four Greek elements; earth, air, water, fire and H'teal. (Transfer and absorption of biological energy, life and death combined)
The main three bad and good guys have power over the strong nuclear force and so can combine and split atoms, kind of like alchemy, (Without stuff blowing up or radiating, or whatever would happen)
What powers do you think someone who could control the other "stuff" on the standard model have, more importantly photons and electrons. I'm thinking the nuclear force guy has control over gluons, things like having power over a up quark might be to obscure to really think on but I enjoy trying to think about this kind of stuff. I've only studied this out of personal interest so my knowledge is limited. Not expecting much back on this but just trying it out, hopefully here from you!
Yours gratefully James.
 
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I'm confused. If your elements are just the 5 you mention, where do Standard Model particles come from? Are they somehow NOT fundamental elements in your universe?
 
phinds said:
I'm confused. If your elements are just the 5 you mention, where do Standard Model particles come from? Are they somehow NOT fundamental elements in your universe?
phinds said:
I'm confused. If your elements are just the 5 you mention, where do Standard Model particles come from? Are they somehow NOT fundamental elements in your universe?
Ah get the confusion.
The five elements are the main people, they control everything that is, for example Earth people control; earth, rock, sand, metal, iron, steel, gold etc. Expanding my universe a bit, all the standard models of science still stand. These people control the basic elements on the table that have one of the states of matter at room temperature. These other people I've created and querying about is the people above them, who have special powers.
Thanks for the reply! James.
 
Earth + Air = Smog
Fire + Water = Tequila

(with apologies to Tom Weller)
 
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