Determinant of a special conformal transformation

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The discussion revolves around the determinant of a special conformal transformation as described in a specific chapter of a conformal field theory (CFT) textbook. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and implications of the transformation, including its decomposition into simpler transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how the expression for the special conformal transformation leads to the determinant given in the textbook.
  • Another participant provides a hint involving the determinant's expression and notes that additional terms arise but vanish due to symmetry properties of certain combinations.
  • A suggestion is made to consider the group structure of conformal transformations, proposing that the special transformation can be expressed as a product of translations and inversions.
  • Further elaboration on the steps of the transformation process is provided, detailing the inversion and addition of a vector b, followed by another inversion.
  • A participant expresses realization and gratitude for the breakdown of the transformation process, acknowledging a previous oversight in understanding the inversion step.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on all aspects of the determinant's derivation, as some points remain exploratory and others are clarified through different perspectives. The discussion includes both agreement on the transformation steps and ongoing questions about specific roles of components in the process.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of determinants and transformations, as well as the dependence on the definitions of the transformations involved. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved, particularly regarding the additional terms in the determinant expression.

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Hi,

I am working through Chapter 4 of Francesco, Mathieu and Senechal's CFT book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/038794785X/?tag=pfamazon01-20). Equation 4.52 states that for a special conformal transformation

[tex]\left|\frac{\partial\textbf{x'}}{\partial\textbf{x}}\right| = \frac{1}{(1-2(\textbf{b}\cdot\textbf{x})+b^2 x^2)^{d}}[/tex]

where |.| denotes the determinant. I know that

[tex]x'^{\mu} = \frac{x^\mu - b^\mu x^2}{1-2 b\cdot x + b^2 x^2}[/tex]

How does this give the determinant above? I would appreciate a hint.

Thanks in advance!
 
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maverick280857 said:
Hi,

I am working through Chapter 4 of Francesco, Mathieu and Senechal's CFT book (https://www.amazon.com/dp/038794785X/?tag=pfamazon01-20). Equation 4.52 states that for a special conformal transformation

[tex]\left|\frac{\partial\textbf{x'}}{\partial\textbf{x}}\right| = \frac{1}{(1-2(\textbf{b}\cdot\textbf{x})+b^2 x^2)^{d}}[/tex]

where |.| denotes the determinant. I know that

[tex]x'^{\mu} = \frac{x^\mu - b^\mu x^2}{1-2 b\cdot x + b^2 x^2}[/tex]

How does this give the determinant above? I would appreciate a hint.

Thanks in advance!

Note that

[tex]\frac{\partial x'^{\mu}}{\partial x^\nu} = \frac{\delta^\mu_\nu}{1-2 b\cdot x + b^2 x^2} + f_\nu(x) b^\mu + g^\mu(x) b_\nu,[/tex]

where ##f,g## can be easily determined. If you go ahead and express the determinant in your favorite way (using epsilon symbols is most straightforward), you'll find

$$\left| \frac{\partial x'^{\mu}}{\partial x^\nu} \right| = \frac{1}{(1-2 b\cdot x + b^2 x^2)^d} + \epsilon_{\mu_1\mu_2\cdots} b^{\mu_1} b^{\mu_2} \cdots + \cdots.$$

I haven't specified all of the extra terms, but you can see that they always involve antisymmetric combinations of ##b^{\mu_1} b^{\mu_2}## (and similar products with factors of ##f,g##). But all of these terms vanish because products like ##b^{\mu_1} b^{\mu_2}## are actually symmetric.
 
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Make use of the fact that conformal transformations form a group. Write your special transformation as a product of translations and inversions. It's determinant will then be the product of the determinants of the individual transformations.
 
fzero said:
I haven't specified all of the extra terms, but you can see that they always involve antisymmetric combinations of ##b^{\mu_1} b^{\mu_2}## (and similar products with factors of ##f,g##). But all of these terms vanish because products like ##b^{\mu_1} b^{\mu_2}## are actually symmetric.

Bill_K said:
Make use of the fact that conformal transformations form a group. Write your special transformation as a product of translations and inversions. It's determinant will then be the product of the determinants of the individual transformations.

Thank you fzero and Bill_K. I figured it out using the idea suggested by fzero. But Bill_K, what is the role of b in the translation*inversion product? I remember reading that a special conformal transformation can be decomposed this way, but I didn't quite understand it in the first place. Could you please elaborate.
 
1. Invert: [itex]x^a \rightarrow x^a/x^2[/itex].
2. Add [itex]b[/itex]: [itex]x^a/x^2 \rightarrow x^a/x^2 + b^a = (x^a + b^a x^2)/x^2[/itex].
3. Invert again: [tex](x^a + b^a x^2)/x^2 \rightarrow \frac{x^2 (x^a + b^a x^2)}{(x + b x^2)^2} = \frac{x^a + b^a x^2}{1 + 2 bx + x^2}[/tex].
 
Physics Monkey said:
1. Invert: [itex]x^a \rightarrow x^a/x^2[/itex].
2. Add [itex]b[/itex]: [itex]x^a/x^2 \rightarrow x^a/x^2 + b^a = (x^a + b^a x^2)/x^2[/itex].
3. Invert again: [itex](x^a + b^a x^2)/x^2 \rightarrow x^2 (x^a + b^a x^2)/((x + b x^2)^2 = (x^a + b^a x^2)/(1 + 2 bx + x^2)[/itex].

Thanks. I'm so stupid -- I didn't think of breaking it down this way, and it totally slipped my mind that operation 1 is the inversion step.
 

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