Determine the validity of the number problem

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The discussion revolves around the validity of a number problem related to expressing even numbers as the sum of two different prime numbers. Participants are examining specific cases, particularly focusing on the number 38 and its classification as a counterexample.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the requirement to express even numbers as sums of two different primes, questioning the validity of 38 as a counterexample. Some discuss other even numbers like 32 and 34, providing examples of their prime sums.

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The discussion is active, with participants clarifying their understanding of the problem's requirements. Some have recognized the need for multiple representations of even numbers as sums of primes, while others are still exploring the implications of the claim regarding 38.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the specific conditions under which the sums must be presented, as well as the interpretation of the marking scheme. The distinction between valid and invalid examples is a focal point of the discussion.

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Homework Statement
ii. Find a number between ##30## and ##50##which shows the statement is false.
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my question is on part ii. Only,

the marking scheme indicates that the answer is ##38=31+7## only. My question is why is this False? ##38## is an even number, ##7## and ##31## are two different prime numbers and their sum gives us ##38##!
i would say##32=13+17+2##
##31=13+17+1##

which is false, ooooh! unless the value indicated above is only true for value ##38## and not any other value between ##30## and ##50##. English was a problem there... :cool:
 
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It says it needs to be summed in two different ways. For example 16=11+5 and also 16=13+3, you need two different sums of two primes.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
It says it needs to be summed in two different ways. For example 16=11+5 and also 16=13+3, you need two different sums of two primes.
Aaargh I see that now...thanks
 
chwala said:
Aaargh I see that now...thanks
##32=29+3=13+19##
 
So 32 it's not a counterexample. The claim is you can do this for all even numbers, and the solution says that 38 is the counterexample.
 
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I agree,I understand now...its very clear. The claim is false because of ##38## as you have clearly shown...Thank you once again...
 
Office_Shredder said:
So 32 it's not a counterexample. The claim is you can do this for all even numbers, and the solution says that 38 is the counterexample.
True, whereas in the even numbers like
##32= 3+29 = 13+19## [3 to 13 (+10)...therefore for 29 (-10) = 19]
##34=5+29 = 11+23## [5 to 11 (+ 6)...therefore for 29 ( -6) = 23]

Now the number ##38## can only be expressed in the form ##38= 7+31## and no any other combination.
 

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