Determining if the system is consistent

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The discussion revolves around determining the consistency of a system of linear equations presented in augmented matrix form. Participants explore the implications of the reduced row echelon form and the definitions of consistency in the context of linear algebra.

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  • One participant presents a series of steps taken to reduce the augmented matrix and questions the interpretation of the results regarding consistency.
  • Another participant hints at the relationship between the rank of the matrix and the dimension, suggesting that understanding this could clarify the concept of consistency.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the hints provided and seeks clarification on the meaning of "consistent" in this context.
  • Another participant defines consistency as the absence of a row that leads to a contradiction, such as 0X1 + 0X2 + ... + 0Xn = a (where a ≠ 0), and argues that the presence of a non-zero coefficient indicates consistency.
  • Subsequent replies affirm that the system is consistent because it has at least one solution, specifically noting that X4 = 1 allows for back substitution to find other variable values.

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While some participants agree on the definition of consistency and the interpretation of the results, there is an ongoing discussion about the implications of the matrix rank and the kernel, indicating that not all aspects of the topic are resolved.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concepts of rank and kernel, and there are unresolved questions about the implications of the matrix's structure on the system's consistency.

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Hello all,
I have the "correct" answer from Chegg. However, I am not satisfied that I really understand.
Heres the problem:

Determine if the system is consistent. Do not completely solve the system.

2X1-4X4=-10
3X2+3X3=0
X3+4X4=-1
-3X1+2X2+3X3+X4=5

Here is my attempt:
I first write the system in the augmented matrix form, then reduce it to the "gaussian elimination" form (I think that's what my teacher called it).

##\begin{vmatrix}
2 & 0 & 0 & -4 & -10 \\
0 & 3 & 3 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
-3 & 2 & 3 & 1 & 5
\end{vmatrix}##
Now I multiply Row 1 by 1/2 ((R1)(1/2))
##\begin{vmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & -2 & -5 \\
0 & 3 & 3 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
-3 & 2 & 3 & 1 & 5
\end{vmatrix}##
Now I Add 3Row 1's to Row 4 (R4+3R1)
##\begin{vmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & -2 & -5 \\
0 & 3 & 3 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
0 & 2 & 3 & -5 & -10
\end{vmatrix}##
Now I multiply Row 2 by 1/3 ((R2)(1/3))
##\begin{vmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & -2 & -5 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
0 & 2 & 3 & -5 & -10
\end{vmatrix}##
Now I subtract 2Row1 from Row 4 (R4-2R1)
##\begin{vmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & -2 & -5 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
0 & 0 & 1 & -5 & -10
\end{vmatrix}##
Now I subtract Row 3 from Row 4 (R4-R3)
##\begin{vmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & -2 & -5 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
0 & 0 & 0 & -9 & -9
\end{vmatrix}##
Now I multiply Row 4 by (-1/9) ((R4)(-1/9))
##\begin{vmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & -2 & -5 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1 & 4 & -1\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 1
\end{vmatrix}##

So at this point we see that in Row 4 that X4=1 and this means it is consistent?!
I don't see how this means it is consistent.
Thanks!
 
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Hint: What is relation of rank of matrix with the dimension of matrix? What should be kernel of this matrix?
 
Abhishek11235 said:
Hint: What is relation of rank of matrix with the dimension of matrix? What should be kernel of this matrix?
Hmm, I don't know what any of that means :(
 
cookiemnstr510510 said:
Determine if the system is consistent.
Du you know what "consistent" means in this context?
 
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Erland said:
Du you know what "consistent" means in this context?
I know that for something to be inconsistent your final answer couldn't contain anything like:
0X1+0X2...+0Xn=a, where a does not equal zero.

From this definition of an inconsistent system, I can see that as long as you have a coefficient in front of X equal to a number, that makes it consistent.

Since the last entry is in the form of a consistent equation, this makes the entire system consistent?
 
cookiemnstr510510 said:
Since the last entry is in the form of a consistent equation, this makes the entire system consistent?
Yes. That an equation system is consistent means that it has at least one solution. And you realize that ##X_4=1## in your system, and that you can find values of the other variables by back substitution, so the system is consistent.
 
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Erland said:
Yes. That an equation system is consistent means that it has at least one solution. And you realize that ##X_4=1## in your system, and that you can find values of the other variables by back substitution, so the system is consistent.
awesome! THank you!
 

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