Determining Molar Solubility of Mg(OH)2 in MgCl2 Solution

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The discussion revolves around determining the molar solubility of Mg(OH)2 in a solution of MgCl2, focusing on the setup of the chemical reaction and the use of an ICE table for calculations. Participants explore the implications of initial concentrations and the solubility product constant (Ksp).

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Main Points Raised

  • Casey presents a reaction for the dissolution of Mg(OH)2 but expresses uncertainty about its correctness and the role of water in the reaction.
  • Another participant points out that the initial concentration of Mg2+ is not zero due to the presence of MgCl2, suggesting that this should be factored into the calculations.
  • Casey questions the validity of the reaction setup if the initial concentration of Mg(OH)2 is zero.
  • A participant clarifies the correct reaction as Mg(OH)2(s) <-> Mg2+(aq) + 2 OH-(aq) and emphasizes the importance of not ignoring charges in ionic equations.
  • Casey expresses confusion about why MgCl2 is not included in the reaction.
  • Another participant explains that MgCl2 does not react but contributes to the initial concentration of Mg2+, which is crucial for understanding the solubility dynamics of Mg(OH)2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the initial setup of the reaction or the role of MgCl2 in the context of the solubility of Mg(OH)2. There are multiple competing views regarding the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of using an ICE table due to the presence of an initial concentration of Mg2+, which may affect the calculations. There is also uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding the concentration changes during the dissolution process.

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Homework Statement



What is the molar solubility of Mg(OH)2 (Ksp1.8*10-11) in8.62*10-2M MgCl2 (aq)?



Homework Equations

Chemistry is awwweeesssommmmeee...



The Attempt at a Solution



Okay. Here goes. But mind you, I have not put my all into this course, so I will probably need a good slap in the face every now and again when I make a silly assumption or ask a stupid question

The first thing I need to do is write the reaction, which I am guessing is

Mg(OH)_2\rightarrow 2OH+Mg but I am not entirely sure why. That is, don't I need to include the water or something? Or do we just assume it does not participate?



Next I will construct an ice table.. arrg what's that array command again...

\left[\begin{array}{ccc}Mg(OH)_2 &amp; 2OH &amp; Mg \\8.62*10^{-2} &amp; 0 &amp; 0\\ -s &amp; +2s &amp; +s\\ 8.62*10^{-2}-s &amp; 2s &amp; s\end{array}\right]

This may be wrong (probably). Maybe I did need to include the water. I assumed that the concentration of the Mg(OH)2 was equal to that of the MgCl2

I don't think that is correct. Can I get some guidance from here?

Thanks,
Casey
 
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You starting concentration of Mg(OH)2 is 0.

However, you already have dissolved magnesium in the solution, so initial concentration of Mg2+ is not 0.

Using ICE table is not a bad idea, but it will be tricky. Your first column - the one with dissolved solid - will remain unchanged. You will have only two columns - one for magnesium and one for OH-. That's the easy part. It will yield third degree polynomial, that's the hard part.

However, you can start assuming that you know concentration of Mg2+ - after all it should not change substantially. Use it to calculate concentration of OH- in saturated solution, that will give you information about amount of dissolved Mg(OH)2. Finally check, if your initial assumption (that concentration of Mg2+ won't change substantially) was valid.
 
So then my reaction is not written correctly then? That is what is most difficult for me, is setting up the reaction.

If the [Mg(OH)2]0=0 then the rxn Mg(OH)_2\rightarrow 2OH+Mg can have no meaning.

So what is the correct rxn ?
 
Mg(OH)2(s) <-> Mg2+(aq) + 2 OH-(aq)

You start with a solid hydroxide, so its concentration is 0.

Don't ignore charges when dealing with ions.
 
I do not see how this reaction makes sense (but that's why I suck at chemistry).

Why isn't the MgCl2 included in the rxn ?
 
Because it doesn't react, it is just dissolved.

However, solubility product tells you when Mg(OH)2 will start to precipitate - when [Mg2+][OH-]2 will be higher than the given value. So [Mg2+][OH-]2 product can't be never higher than Kso. When there was already Mg2+ there is the same limit - just now there exist some initial concentration of Mg2+, so when Mg(OH)2 dissolves you should take this original concentration into account.
 

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