Determining Spontaneity in the Reaction COCl2(g) -> CO(g)+Cl2(g)

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The discussion focuses on determining the temperature range for the spontaneity of the reaction COCl2(g) → CO(g) + Cl2(g) at 25 degrees Celsius and 1 atm. Participants confirm the use of the Gibbs free energy equation ΔG = ΔH - TΔS to find the temperature range where ΔG equals zero. They emphasize the importance of knowing the enthalpy and entropy of formation for the reactants and products to accurately calculate the temperature limits. Additionally, they mention that the temperature range is influenced by the boiling and dissociation temperatures of the gases involved.

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COCl2(g) --> CO(g)+Cl2(g)

Homework Statement


Consider the reaction carried out at 25 degrees celsius and 1 atm: COCl2(g)-->CO(g)+Cl2(g)
In what temperature range will the reaction become (or not become) spontaneous?


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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b
My hunch is that i have to use ΔG=ΔH-TΔS and set ΔG equal to zero but then I'm not sure how am i supposed to get a temperature range...help please!
 
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Your hunch is correct. The temperature range would be bounded by ΔG=0 and also any temperature at which the components are eliminated: e.g., the boiling temperature of the gases, the dissociation temperature of CO, etc. I'm not sure any of these will be relevant, but it might explain why there's a limited temperature range.
 


Mapes said:
Your hunch is correct. The temperature range would be bounded by ΔG=0 and also any temperature at which the components are eliminated: e.g., the boiling temperature of the gases, the dissociation temperature of CO, etc. I'm not sure any of these will be relevant, but it might explain why there's a limited temperature range.

How do we know whether the temperature will be above or below that of the temperature that is bounded by ΔG=0?
 


I don't know. It's something you have to check, just as if you were designing an industrial process to run the reaction.
 


I think you'll need extra information, especially the enthalpy of formation for each species, or the entropy of formation. then you can find T
 

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