Did a Shear-Tensile Failure Cause the Wire Rope Accident?

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The discussion revolves around the potential causes of a wire rope accident involving a 7 strand aluminum wire. Participants explore whether a shear-tensile failure occurred and examine various factors that could have contributed to the wire's condition and eventual failure. The scope includes technical analysis and speculative reasoning regarding the failure mechanisms of wire ropes.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the wire appears to have been sheared diagonally, suggesting that if it had failed under tension, a ragged end or thinning would be expected.
  • Another participant agrees that it is unlikely to be a tensile failure, citing the absence of thinning at the break point and proposing that the wire may have been broken when driven over and dragged along the roadway.
  • A different participant raises the complexity of the situation, mentioning that the cables are wrapped in a bundle and twisted, which could lead to unusual shearing actions under various loads, including wind and entanglement.
  • This participant also points out that there is generally not much thinning in shear-tensile failures in wire rope, but acknowledges the difficulty in determining the exact cause without more information about the events leading up to the failure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the wire failure, with some arguing against tensile failure while others propose various contributing factors. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise mechanism of failure.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential influence of external factors such as abrasion, wind, and entanglement on the wire's condition, but do not reach a consensus on the specific cause of the failure.

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I have been photographing wires hanging from utility poles that have tangled with and caused automobile accidents. One of these is a puzzle the detail shows a wire from a 7 strand wire rope made out of aluminum. It was too dangerous at the time to anything but drag the wire out of the road and the wire has been removed by the utility. http://www.flickr.com/photos/78934859@N04/12562669533/in/photolist-k97XYz-cabvfq-euZ4FC-hEtawu
 
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Can't you just upload the pic here ? to view the pic one needs to sign up for flickr...
 
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The wire appears to have been sheared diagonally.
If it had failed under tension I would expect a ragged end or a thinning.

It is possible that it was worn over time against an abrasive surface.
Maybe swinging or vibrating in the wind.
 
Here is the photo you can view it on flickr by searching "national electrical code" in quotes.
 

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Definitely not tensile failure. I concur with Baluncore. You would see a thinning of the material at the point of break. Possibly broken when it was driven over and dragged along the roadway.
 
It's really tough to say...
(1) these cables are wrapped in a 7 cable bundle, most often twisted to maintain shape.
(2) Power cables are in tension but they are catenaries, this, coupled with (1) could cause some very odd shearing action, especially coupled with other loads (wind, entanglement, etc)

There's not much thinning in shear-tensile failures in wire rope. That's a really long "shear plane" (if that's what it is) though...

These factors make it difficult to tell what had happened. Do you know the events which led up to this failure?
 

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