Different orders of dimensions

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The discussion revolves around the classification and understanding of dimensions, proposing different orders for various dimensions, such as time being a 0th order and normal spatial dimensions being 1st order. It emphasizes the need to clarify what constitutes a dimension and its physical implications before ordering them. The conversation touches on advanced theories like SuperString and SuperGravity, which utilize 10 and 11 dimensions, respectively, and suggests that dimensions may not be fundamentally different but are perceived in segments by humans. The importance of defining dimensions accurately is highlighted, with a call for a deeper understanding beyond mere speculation. Overall, the dialogue stresses the complexity of dimensions and the potential for future theories to expand this framework.
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Different orders for different dimensions.

e.g.
time(0D): 0th order
'Normal' spatial dimensions (1D,2D,3D): 1th order.
'Hyper' dimensions: 2nd order.
dimensions up to D15: 3rd order.
D16 up to D-idontknow: 4th order.
etc, etc.


Am I completely wrong?
 
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Before we even begin to talk about dimensions, we must ask the following questions:
what is a dimension physically? What is space physically?

Before we can order dimensions we must be clear as to what exactly we are talking about. Also what is the conceptual difference between dimension and the order of dimension, what is the purpose for ordering the dimension?

John G.
 
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General literature speaks about three dimensions and time therefor astating difference nl. space and time (later on put together:spacetime). furthermore if spoken about a hypercube "..it's a cube in the fourth dimension..." actually meant is D5. And up to D9 you can probable visualize mentally.

Nowadays SuperString works with 10 dimensions; not 5 or 6 or 21. And SuperGravity does it with 11; not 10 or 12 or 43. Behold...SS 10 and SG 11...interchangeable. And I feel that we will fine-tune the whole lot with dimensions up to D15.

Probablely dimensions aren't that different from each other, but because we humans seem to get it in chuncks (first three spatial dimensions, then time, then the dimensions for the hyperthingies, etc. etc.) it might be so
that dimensions reveal themselves (or get useful) in portions. Maybe that's why I never heard from the 8-dimensional-string-theory.

And when you want to explain graviton hopping, noninteger branes, bubblebranes and intermitting time you just have to wait another 7 decades or so, we might get 37-dimensional theories.
 
General literature speaks about three dimensions and time therefor astating difference nl. space and time (later on put together:spacetime). furthermore if spoken about a hypercube "..it's a cube in the fourth dimension..." actually meant is D5. And up to D9 you can probable visualize mentally.

You still haven't answered the question, what is a dimension? You use the word dimension but do you know what it means?

John G.
 
(A dimension is alone.)

It's a measure of something which can not be formed by combination.
 
Abject speculation is not welcome here.

- Warren
 
"Supernovae evidence for foundational change to cosmological models" https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.15143 The paper claims: We compare the standard homogeneous cosmological model, i.e., spatially flat ΛCDM, and the timescape cosmology which invokes backreaction of inhomogeneities. Timescape, while statistically homogeneous and isotropic, departs from average Friedmann-Lemaître-Robertson-Walker evolution, and replaces dark energy by kinetic gravitational energy and its gradients, in explaining...

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