Dimensional analysis (Speed of sound)

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The speed of sound in a gas is determined by the pressure (p), density (ρ), and an arbitrary dimensionless constant (k). The derived formula for the speed of sound is v = k(P/ρ)^(1/2). The discussion also touches on torsion in a circular rod, where the relationship between the angle of deformation (θ) and the torsional moment (M) is explored, leading to the expression θ = Φ((M/Gr^3), s/r). Both derivations emphasize the importance of constants in dimensional analysis.

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Speed of sound

The speed of sound c in a gas depends on among other things on the pressure on the gas, the density and probably, possibly on their viscosity. Determine c-

My Variable list:

Pressure p ML^-1T^-2
Density ρ ML^-3
Speed v LT^-1

My matrix:

| | M | L | T |
| p | 1 | -1 | -2 |
| ρ | 1 | -3 | 0 |
| v | 0 | 1 | -1 |

after a couple of row reductions i got it to be:

k = P/(ρv^2) (pi=k)(k = constant)

The answer should be v = k(P/ρ)^(1/2)

I'm doing it right?
 
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Firben said:
Speed of sound

The speed of sound c in a gas depends on among other things on the pressure on the gas, the density and probably, possibly on their viscosity. Determine c-

My Variable list:

Pressure p ML^-1T^-2
Density ρ ML^-3
Speed v LT^-1

My matrix:

| | M | L | T |
| p | 1 | -1 | -2 |
| ρ | 1 | -3 | 0 |
| v | 0 | 1 | -1 |

after a couple of row reductions i got it to be:

k = P/(ρv^2) (pi=k)(k = constant)

The answer should be v = k(P/ρ)^(1/2)

I'm doing it right?

Your answer is essentially equivalent, except you've not rearranged it to get the velocity on the LHS, as required. Remember that k is just an arbitrary dimensionless constant, if you bring it to the other side and have to take the reciprocal, just replace it with another arbitrary dimensionless constant.
 
But then i will get:
kv^2=P/ρ => kv=√(P/ρ) =>v = (√(P/ρ))/k which is not equal to v = k√(P/ρ)
 
Firben said:
But then i will get:
kv^2=P/ρ => kv=√(P/ρ) =>v = (√(P/ρ))/k which is not equal to v = k√(P/ρ)

That's why I said k doesn't really "matter" - it's just a dimensionless constant. Just replace (1/k) in your expression with K (another constant). Even better, *start* with K in your derivation, and then replace 1/K with k, to get the exact same expression as the expected solution.

Remember, k (or K) is just an arbitrary dimensionless constant. If you move it around, reciprocate it, square it, etc., just replace it with another constant in the final expression to make it "neat".
 
Torsion

when a homogeneous circular rod is subjected to a torsional moment M it will deform. (The rod is fastened at the bottom). A measure of deformation is the angle θ with which the upper end is rotated.

Determine a relation between θ and M and the other quantities

My variable list:

Mach number M 1 (dimensionless)
Shear modulus G ML^-1T^-2
Angle θ 1 (dimensionless)
Radius r L
Height s L

My matrix

| |M|L|T|
|M|0|0|0|
|G|1|-1|-2|
|θ|0|0|0|
|r|0|1|0|
|s|0|1|0|

It should be θ = Φ((M/Gr^3), s/r)

Ss there something missing here ?
 

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