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The discussion revolves around the equation ##x = vt + x_0## and its interpretation in terms of direct proportionality between the variables involved, particularly ##x## and ##v##. Participants are exploring the implications of the constant ##x_0## on this relationship.

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  • Participants question whether the presence of the constant ##x_0## affects the direct proportionality between ##x## and ##v##. Some suggest that the direct proportionality actually exists between ##(x-x_0)## and ##t##, leading to further exploration of the relationships among these variables.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and interpretations regarding the nature of proportionality in the context of the given equation. There is an exchange of ideas about how to assess proportionality through doubling quantities and graphical representations, although no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the definitions and implications of direct proportionality versus linear relationships, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts within the scope of their homework. The discussion reflects an engagement with foundational principles in physics and mathematics.

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Can a the equation ##x = vt + x_0## not be considered a direct proportionality between ##x## and ##v##? If so, is it because there is a constant ##x_0##?

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ChiralSuperfields said:
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Can a the equation ##x = vt + x_0## not be considered a direct proportionality between ##x## and ##v##? If so, is it because there is a constant ##x_0##?

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The direct proportionality is between ##(x-x_0)## and ##t##. If you double ##v##, you double ##(x-x_0)## for the same ##t##.
You can also say that there is direct proportionality between ##(x-x_0)## and ##v##. If you double ##t##, you double ##(x-x_0)## for the same ##v##. Makes intuitive sense, no?
 
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The direct proportionality is between ##(x-x_0)## and ##t##. If you double ##v##, you double ##(x-x_0)## for the same ##t##.
You can also say that there is direct proportionality between ##(x-x_0)## and ##v##. If you double ##t##, you double ##(x-x_0)## for the same ##v##. Makes intuitive sense, no?
Thank you for your reply @kuruman! Yeah that is interesting, and yeah I think it makes sense :)

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Thank you for your reply @kuruman! Yeah that is interesting, and yeah I think it makes sense :)
@kuruman's test (Post #3) for proportionality is straightforward. Ask yourself: 'If I double one quantity, does the other quantity always get doubled?'. If the answer is 'yes' the quantities are proportional.

Of course, there's nothing special about doubling. It works for any factor. E.g. if ##y## is proportional to ##x##, then tripling ##x## also triples ##y##. This should be clear if you thnk about the equation ##y=kx##.

It’s also worth thinking graphically. If two quantities are directly proportional, a graph of one quantity against the other is a straight line through the origin.

If you get a straight line which doesn't pass through the origin, the quantities are not proportional;. In this case, the relationship is called 'linearity'. E.g. for the equation ##x=vt + x_0## there are various ways to describe the relationship between ##x## and ##t##: e.g. '##x## is linearly dependent on ##t##'; or 'there is a linear releationship between ##x## and ##t##'.

Edit: typo' corrected.
 
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