Disappearing lakes on Titan - seasonal cycles

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of disappearing lakes on Titan, particularly in relation to seasonal cycles and potential geological processes. Participants explore the implications of these changes for understanding Titan's hydrology and geology, comparing it to Earth's systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Titan, like Earth, has seasonal cycles, but they are much longer due to Saturn's orbital period of 29.5 years.
  • One participant suggests that the disappearance of lakes could be linked to tectonic activity, given that the lakes are located in the same general area.
  • Another participant discusses the complexity of Titan's hydrology, highlighting that both ethane and methane can exist in all three states and participate in the hydrologic cycle, unlike water on Earth.
  • It is proposed that seasonal variations in temperature or atmospheric pressure on Titan may affect the relative amounts of ethane and methane vapors in the atmosphere, influencing lake dynamics.
  • Some studies indicate the presence of karst geological forms on Titan, suggesting that lakes could shrink due to slow drainage into surrounding water-ice rocks.
  • One participant mentions that while liquid methane does not dissolve water ice, it can dissolve organics, which may play a role in geological processes on Titan.
  • A participant raises the possibility that the concentration of emptied lakes in one area could be a selection effect due to varying image quality across Titan.

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Participants express a range of hypotheses regarding the mechanisms behind the disappearing lakes, including tectonic activity, hydrological complexities, and geological processes. No consensus is reached on the primary cause of the observed changes.

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The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the interactions between ethane and methane, the effects of seasonal changes, and the geological characteristics of Titan. Limitations in imaging quality may also affect interpretations of the data.

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Earth and Titan are the only objects in the Solar System with stable liquids on its surface. Earth has water oceans, lakes, rivers and rain, Titan has methane/ethane oceans, lakes, rivers and rain. Earth has seasons, and so does Titan. They are just much longer as Saturn's orbital period is 29.5 years.

Studying data from the Cassini mission scientists have found three lakes that were present in winter but disappeared in summer, the first time such a large change has been found. It is expected that evaporation is too slow for the process - the liquid must have gone elsewhere. Studying changes like this will tell us more about the only other system of surface liquids we know.

Press release: Disappearing Lakes Offer Clues to Titan’s Seasonal Cycles

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I wonder... could this be a result of some sort of tectonic activity? Considering the now-emptied lakes are all within the same general area, that is.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia10654.html
This older NASA article confirms there is tectonic activity on Titan, albeit slightly different from that of Earth.

Thoughts?
 
I'm not an expert in this field, but my understanding of the situation is that the hydrology on Titan is complicated by the fact that both ethane and methane can exist in all three states under the conditions prevailing there, and hence both participate in the hydrologic cycle on Titan. This is in contrast to the hydrology on the present-day Earth, where only water exhibits this behaviour. It's not well understood whether, or to what extent, seasonal variations in temperature or atmospheric pressure on Titan can alter the relative amounts of ethane and methane vapours in the atmosphere.

Ethane and methane have significantly different properties: liquid ethane (##C_2H_6##), with a higher molecular mass than methane (##CH_4##), is less volatile than liquid methane, and is hence less likely to evaporate from an ethane/methane mixture present in a body of liquid on the surface of Titan. So it's possible that lakes and ponds viewed in the northern summer on Titan have different amounts of ethane/methane compared to cooler parts of the seasonal cycle.

Some studies (https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01718104 , https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2014/pdf/2371.pdf) suggest that karst (dissolution) geological forms exist on Titan, and that ponds and lakes formed in such areas can be subject to slow drainage by solution/percolation into the surrounding (mainly water-ice) rocks. Dissolution rates of substrate may differ between ethane and methane.

So it would seem that at least two mechanisms for shrinkage of ethane/methane lakes and ponds could be present on Titan.
 
Comeback City said:
Considering the now-emptied lakes are all within the same general area, that is.
That is probably just a selection effect - we don't have the same image quality for the whole planet.
 
Another word on possible karst/dissolution geology on Titan: liquid methane will not dissolve water ice, but it will dissolve organics like solid acetylene which may be bound into the water ice.
 

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