Discover the Effects of Rotating Polarizing Films | Explained with Examples

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The discussion revolves around the effects of rotating two polarizing films with respect to one another, focusing on the behavior of light as it passes through these films. The subject area includes concepts of polarization and light behavior in optics.

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  • Participants explore the effects of polarizing films oriented at different angles, questioning the terminology used to describe light behavior when passing through these films. There is a focus on understanding what happens at various angles, particularly at right angles.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying terms and concepts related to polarization. Some have provided insights into the mechanics of how light interacts with polarizers, while others are questioning assumptions and definitions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of different angles of rotation.

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There are discussions about the accuracy of terminology in the context of polarizing filters and the implications of light behavior at various angles, particularly regarding the blocking of light at perpendicular orientations.

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Imagine that you had two polarizing films and were holding them one on top of the other. what would be the effect of rotating the two polarizing films with respect to one another be? explain what would be seen and why.

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Let’s say the first polarizer film was in the vertical direction, and the second was in the horizontal direction the light would go through the first vertical polarizer which would polarize the light in that direction, leaving 50% of the light. The remaining 50% vibrating light waves would be negated when they pass through the second polarizer. This would be the same scenario vice versa.
 
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Physics345 said:
Let’s say the first polarizer film was in the vertical direction, and the second was in the horizontal direction the light would go through the first vertical polarizer which would polarize the light in that direction, leaving 50% of the light. The remaining 50% vibrating light waves would be negated when they pass through the second polarizer. This would be the same scenario vice versa.
Uh ... "negated when they pass through the second polarizer"? Don't you mean "they would be blocked when they TRIED to pass through the second polarizer?"

Also, that is just one highly specific case. What happens when you rotate at other angles?
 
phinds said:
Uh ... "negated when they pass through the second polarizer"? Don't you mean "they would be blocked when they TRIED to pass through the second polarizer?"

Also, that is just one highly specific case. What happens when you rotate at other angles?
My textbook says negated, could it be wrong?
Also what other angles are we referring to?
 
Physics345 said:
My textbook says negated, could it be wrong?
Negated is not so much the problem as is the statement "they pass through the second polarizer" The point is they do NOT pass through the second polarizer when it is perpendicular to the first.
Also what other angles are we referring to?
ALL other angles
 
phinds said:
Negated is not so much the problem as is the statement "they pass through the second polarizer" The point is they do NOT pass through the second polarizer when it is perpendicular to the first.
ALL other angles
Why wouldn't they? What exactly is stopping them from passing through the second polarizer?
 
Physics345 said:
Why wouldn't they? What exactly is stopping them from passing through the second polarizer?
A polarizing filter effectively poses a question to the photon: are you polarized with me or against me? Simple binary choice. If with me you can go through, if against you can't.
Suppose there are two filters at angle θ. If a photon has got through the first filter it has committed to being polarized in that specific durection. When it has to decide at the second filter, its probability of saying "with" is cos2(θ). Thus, if they are at right angles, its probability of getting through the second filter is zero.
 
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haruspex said:
A polarizing filter effectively poses a question to the photon: are you polarized with me or against me? Simple binary choice. If with me you can go through, if against you can't.
Suppose there are two filters at angle θ. If a photon has got through the first filter it has committed to being polarized in that specific durection. When it has to decide at the second filter, its probability of saying "with" is cos2(θ). Thus, if they are at right angles, its probability of getting through the second filter is zero.
Sorry I'm so late with my reply. I re arranged my answer I'm pretty sure I got it now. Have a loo
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Polarized light; is light whose electric fields are only oscillating in one direction. When un-polarized light whose electric field oscillates in any directions passes through a polarizer, the light becomes polarized. When light passes through the first polarized film, the lights electric field will oscillate in that direction. When they pass through the second polarized film which is perpendicular the remaining electric fields will be blocked, causing there to be no light left at all. Since the two polarized films are rotating perpendicular. Therefore we know regardless of the perpendicular rotation of the two films all light will be blocked off once it reaches the second perpendicular polarized film at all angles.
 
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Physics345 said:
once it passes through
Except, it doesn't pass through.
 
haruspex said:
Except, it doesn't pass through.
Opps sorry that was a typo I didn't notice that. Other than that, do I have a proper understanding now?
I edited it to "reaches the second polarized film"
 
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Physics345 said:
un-polarized light whose electric field oscillates in any directions
Make that "many directions" and your answer will be fine.
 
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Done thank you both for your help!
 

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