Discover the Fastest Moving Place on Earth: World Whirled

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The discussion centers around identifying the fastest moving place on Earth, considering factors such as Earth's rotation, altitude, and plate tectonics. Participants explore various interpretations of "fastest moving," including both rotational speed and tectonic movement.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the fastest moving place in relation to Earth's rotation could be the top of Mount Kilimanjaro, particularly considering its altitude and proximity to the equator.
  • Others suggest that Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador may be the fastest due to its elevation and location on the equator, which contributes to its rotational speed.
  • A participant mentions the significance of plate tectonics, noting that North America and Europe are moving apart, which could be considered in the context of movement over time.
  • One participant introduces a complex view of Earth's rotation, discussing the implications of multiple axes of rotation and how this affects the perceived speed of different locations on the planet.
  • Another participant humorously references the idea of Earth's movement in relation to its position in the solar system and the cumulative effects of its rotation and revolution.
  • There is a mention of galactic rotation as another factor to consider in the broader context of motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on what constitutes the fastest moving place, with no consensus reached. Some focus on rotational speed, while others consider tectonic movement, leading to multiple competing interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants explore various assumptions about Earth's motion, including the effects of altitude, latitude, and the complexities of rotational dynamics. The discussion remains open-ended without resolving these complexities.

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What place on Earth moves the fastest?
 
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Loren Booda said:
What place on Earth moves the fastest?
As in plate tectonics?
 
I take this to mean (based on the thread title) which place moves fastest in relation to the Earth's rotation. Taking into account proximity to the equator and altitude, I would vote for the top of Mount Kilimanjaro.
 
Ophiolite said:
I take this to mean (based on the thread title) which place moves fastest in relation to the Earth's rotation. Taking into account proximity to the equator and altitude, I would vote for the top of Mount Kilimanjaro.
... at midnight, in winter (perigee), just for good measure.:wink:
 
Ophiolite said:
I take this to mean (based on the thread title) which place moves fastest in relation to the Earth's rotation. Taking into account proximity to the equator and altitude, I would vote for the top of Mount Kilimanjaro.
I thought of that, but I think plate tectonics are more interesting. North America & Europe move about an inch apart every year. A location that was at a specific latitude and longitude years ago, would no longer be at that point. I know this is an issue that has had to be taken into account for GPS.
 
There are mountains near the equator in South America which might take the cake. Although I had meant whirling as a result of Earth's rotation, I believe I once saw an interesting map representing tectonic movements (slowest wins?) :smile:
 
DaveC426913 said:
... at midnight, in winter (perigee), just for good measure.:wink:

Not really, think again.

Meanwhile, the winner is Chimborazo

But Mount Chimborazo, in Ecuador, South America, perched right on the equator, is 20,561' high all by itself. It is also atop that 26.7-mi. terrestrial belly-bulge, and thus stretches upward or outward farther than any other height on earth
 
Andre said:
Not really, think again.
No?

At midnight(ish), the Earth's rotation and its revolution about the sun will be cumulative.
In (North American) winter, Earth is at its perigee, thus moving fastest in its orbit. (OK, Kilimanjaro is actually in the S.Hemisphere, so it would be summer there...)

I was facetiously considering this point on Earth with respect to a point outside both the Earth and, in fact, the Solar system.
 
You are right, good thinking.
 
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Loren,
If a sphere like has an axis of rotation through its north and south poles, as you observe it rotating you would see that its equatorial plane has the fastest motion on the spheres surface.
If we add another axis of rotation perpendicular to the poles (i.e., through its equator) and rotate the sphere through this second axis at the same velocity of rotation as the polar axis, you will observe the sphere to rotate as though it were inclined at 45 degrees.
The real velocity of maximum rotation on the spheres surface would then be twice the observed value because of the existence of the illusion that makes us think the sphere is actually leaning over at 45 degrees.
If we change the velocity of rotation of the eqatorial axis - let's say we reduce it so it is half the velocity of rotation of the polar axis the 45 degree angle of inclination will become 22.5 degrees, but we will still think it is leaning over and not bolt upright, because of the illusion.
There is no way to tell if the Earth is rotating on one or two axes (because of the illusion)and therefore we simply cannot tell which part of our planet is fastest moving in reality.

Look at the way the planets appear to rise and fall almost in a zig-zag across the sky as we observe them from the earth. Their motion is only seen that way because of our vantage point on earth, from outside the solar system our view would be rather different.
Consequently, you have asked an impossible question because we cannot tell if the Earth is rotating on one, two or even three axes. If the Earth were rotating slightly on a third axis we would observe a wobble through its polar axis (which we do), but we cannot tell.
 
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Might Earth be revolving on infinite axes resolved into one? I defer to Ernst Mach.
 
  • #12
lol Loren!

" I defer to Ernst Mach. "

The wit to match the wit. Your quantumdream sure has progressed over the last 5 years.
 
  • #13
netometry,

I appreciate your taking time for deciphering my site and feedback. You really boost my spirits!
 
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DaveC426913 said:
No?

At midnight(ish), the Earth's rotation and its revolution about the sun will be cumulative.
In (North American) winter, Earth is at its perigee, thus moving fastest in its orbit. (OK, Kilimanjaro is actually in the S.Hemisphere, so it would be summer there...)

I was facetiously considering this point on Earth with respect to a point outside both the Earth and, in fact, the Solar system.

Thinking outside the... ellipse? Bravo!
 
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Don't forget galactic rotation?
 

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