Discover the Secret Formula for Relating N and t in this Number Pattern

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The discussion revolves around finding a formula that relates the variable N to the sequence of values t, which are derived from a specific number pattern. The values of t correspond to triangular numbers, where t increases as N increases.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between N and t, noting that the increments in t follow a specific pattern. Some suggest using difference equations to analyze the sequence, while others propose tabulating values to identify patterns.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between N and t, with participants sharing observations about the sequence and suggesting methods for further investigation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of difference equations and tabulation, but no consensus or definitive approach has emerged yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of deriving a formula based on the provided values of N and t, and there is an acknowledgment of the interesting nature of number patterns being discussed.

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anybody know how I can relate N with t?


when N=1 t=0, N=2 t=1, N=3 t=3, N=4 t=6, N=5 t=10, N=6 t=15, N=7 t=21...and so on.

i need to derived a formula that relates N to t.

HELP!
 
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Each increment in t jumps by one more than the preceding increment. The t-sequence is {0, 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, ...}

There's a way to solve this using difference equations (which are something like differential equations, but not the same). In this problem the first differences are 1, 2, 3, 4, and so on, and the second differences are all 1.

The technique escapes me at the moment, and I'm heading off to bed. In the meantime, you might try a search for "difference equations" and see if that helps you.
 
Start by tabulating values of N and N squared.
 
Mark44 said:
Each increment in t jumps by one more than the preceding increment. The t-sequence is {0, 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, ...}

There's a way to solve this using difference equations (which are something like differential equations, but not the same). In this problem the first differences are 1, 2, 3, 4, and so on, and the second differences are all 1.

The technique escapes me at the moment, and I'm heading off to bed. In the meantime, you might try a search for "difference equations" and see if that helps you.

thanks mark, I'll try to work on it a bit more...I think these number patterns are very interesting...
 
help!
 
This is actually a bit simpler than I first thought. Here are the numbers you gave, plus a few more, assuming they follow the same pattern
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N |1|2|3|4| 5| 6| 7| 8| 9|
---------------------------
t |0|1|3|6|10|15|21|28|37|

First, I'd like to get rid of t, and switch to aN, since I would like to be able to identify which value in the second row I'm talking about. The bottom row has values of ai, where i >= 1. I stared at the table for a while, then noticed this pattern:
a1 = 0
a2 = a1 + 1
a3 = a2 + 2
a4 = a3 + 3
.
.
.
aN = ? + ?

That should get you started.
 

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