Discovering a Formula for the Difference of Squares in the Fibonacci Sequence

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The discussion revolves around finding a formula for the difference of squares of two Fibonacci numbers, specifically \( (F_{n+1})^2 - (F_{n-1})^2 \). Participants explore patterns and potential formulas related to this expression, with a focus on mathematical reasoning and the use of induction.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem and seeks assistance in finding a formula for \( A_n = F_{n+1}^2 - F_{n-1}^2 \).
  • Another participant calculates specific values for \( A_n \) and suggests that the results align with Fibonacci numbers, proposing the induction hypothesis \( F_{n+1}^2 - F_{n-1}^2 = F_{2n} \).
  • Subsequent posts express confusion regarding the induction hypothesis and the continuation of the proof.
  • One participant admits a lack of understanding of induction and expresses a desire to learn, indicating they are assisting a friend with the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the induction hypothesis or the continuation of the proof. There is uncertainty regarding the understanding of induction and the proposed patterns.

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Some participants express confusion about the induction hypothesis and the steps required to prove it, indicating potential gaps in understanding the underlying concepts of mathematical induction.

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Individuals interested in Fibonacci numbers, mathematical proofs, and induction may find this discussion relevant.

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Problem is: "By experimenting with numerous examples in search of a pattern, determine a simple formula for (F n+1)^2-(F n-1)^2; That is, a formula for the difference of the squares of two Fibonacci numbers."

The n+1 and n-1 should be smaller by the F but I don't know how to do that on a computer

Any help is appreciated
 
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We are asked to find a formula for:

$$A_{n}=F_{n+1}^2-F_{n-1}^2$$

So, as suggested, let's see if a pattern develops:

$$A_1=F_2^2-F_0^2=1^2-0^2=1=F_2$$

$$A_2=F_3^2-F_1^2=2^2-1^2=3=F_4$$

$$A_3=F_4^2-F_2^2=3^2-1^2=8=F_6$$

$$A_4=F_5^2-F_3^2=5^2-2^2=21=F_8$$

At this point, we could state the induction hypothesis $P_n$:

$$F_{n+1}^2-F_{n-1}^2=F_{2n}$$

Can you proceed?
 
Proceed with continuing the pattern?

Im not understanding the hypothesis of F 2n aswell
 
06Rousher said:
Proceed with continuing the pattern?

Im not understanding the hypothesis of F 2n aswell

I mean can you continue the proof by induction. The hypothesis is what we notice appears to be the pattern that arises when computing the first several terms of the sequence we are asked to explore. Have you been using induction in your course?
 
No i have no clue on induction

Im helping a friend with his work and trying to understand it myself cause I know it will be in my future. So I haven't had guidelines or someone to teach me, just been trying to do this on my own
 

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