Discovering the Mathematics of E8: A Talk by Bertram Kostant at UCR

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Bertram Kostant's recent talk at UCR focused on the mathematical foundations of Garrett Lisi's "E8 Theory of Everything," which aims to unify the four fundamental forces of nature using the exceptional Lie group E8. Kostant elaborated on the structure of E8, highlighting its dimension of 248 and its relationship with the Standard Model gauge group and SU(5). The discussion also touched on the mathematical beauty of E8, independent of its physical applications, and referenced recent work on finite subgroups of E8, particularly GL(2,32) and (Z/5)^3.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lie groups, specifically E8 and SU(5)
  • Familiarity with the Standard Model of particle physics
  • Basic knowledge of group representations and their dimensions
  • Awareness of finite subgroups in algebraic structures
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the mathematical properties of the exceptional Lie group E8
  • Explore the implications of the Standard Model gauge group and its subgroups
  • Research the representation theory related to SU(5) and its applications
  • Investigate the significance of finite subgroups like GL(2,32) and (Z/5)^3 in modern mathematics
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Mathematicians, theoretical physicists, and students interested in advanced topics in algebra and their applications in unifying theories in physics will benefit from this discussion.

John Baez
Bertram Kostant recently gave this talk at UCR:

On Some Mathematics in Garrett Lisi's "E8 Theory of Everything"

Abstract: A physicist, Garrett Lisi, has published a highly
controversial, but fascinating, paper purporting to go beyond the
Standard Model in that it unifies all 4 forces of nature by using
as gauge group the exceptional Lie group E8. My talk, strictly
mathematical, will be about an elaboration of the mathematics of
E8 which Lisi relies on to construct his theory.

You can see videos of this talk and lecture notes here:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/kostant/

If his talk is too tough, you might prefer the warmup talk I gave
earlier that day. But, Kostant described some ideas whose charm is
easy to appreciate:

The dimension of E8 is 248 = 8 x 31. There is, in fact, a natural way
to chop up E8 into 31 spaces of dimension 8.

There is a nice way to see the product of two copies of the Standard
Model gauge group sitting inside E8.

The Standard Model gauge group is a subgroup of SU(5). There is also
a nice way to see the product of two copies of SU(5) sitting inside E8.

The dimension of SU(5) x SU(5) is 48, and 248 - 48 = 200. The adjoint
action of SU(5) x SU(5) on the Lie algebra of E8 thus gives a
200-dimensional representation, and this is

(5 x 10) + (5* x 10*) + (10 x 5) + (10* x 5*)

Garrett Lisi's ideas have received serious criticism from Jacques
Distler and others. I've included links to Lisi's paper and also
Distler's comments. But, the work Kostant presents here is logically
independent - beautiful math, regardless of its possible applications
to physics. It makes heavy use of recent work on certain finite
subgroups of E8, most notably GL(2,32) and (Z/5)^3.

As Kostant said, "E8 is a symphony of twos, threes and fives".
 
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"John Baez" <baez@math.removethis.ucr.andthis.edu> wrote in message
news:fphu8i$s9m$1@glue.ucr.edu...
> Bertram Kostant recently gave this talk at UCR:
>
> On Some Mathematics in Garrett Lisi's "E8 Theory of Everything"
>
> Abstract: A physicist, Garrett Lisi, has published a highly
> controversial, but fascinating, paper purporting to go beyond the
> Standard Model in that it unifies all 4 forces of nature by using
> as gauge group the exceptional Lie group E8. My talk, strictly
> mathematical, will be about an elaboration of the mathematics of
> E8 which Lisi relies on to construct his theory.
>
> You can see videos of this talk and lecture notes here:
>
> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/kostant/
>
> If his talk is too tough, you might prefer the warmup talk I gave
> earlier that day. But, Kostant described some ideas whose charm is
> easy to appreciate:
>
> The dimension of E8 is 248 = 8 x 31. There is, in fact, a natural way
> to chop up E8 into 31 spaces of dimension 8.
>
> There is a nice way to see the product of two copies of the Standard
> Model gauge group sitting inside E8.
>
> The Standard Model gauge group is a subgroup of SU(5). There is also
> a nice way to see the product of two copies of SU(5) sitting inside E8.
>
> The dimension of SU(5) x SU(5) is 48, and 248 - 48 = 200. The adjoint
> action of SU(5) x SU(5) on the Lie algebra of E8 thus gives a
> 200-dimensional representation, and this is
>
> (5 x 10) + (5* x 10*) + (10 x 5) + (10* x 5*)
>
> Garrett Lisi's ideas have received serious criticism from Jacques
> Distler and others. I've included links to Lisi's paper and also
> Distler's comments. But, the work Kostant presents here is logically
> independent - beautiful math, regardless of its possible applications
> to physics. It makes heavy use of recent work on certain finite
> subgroups of E8, most notably GL(2,32) and (Z/5)^3.
>
> As Kostant said, "E8 is a symphony of twos, threes and fives".
>
>[/color]

In several attempts over several days I have been unable to download the
'.mov' of John Baez's talk on E8, etc using the link provided. Anyone else
have this challenge. Has anyone been able to download the '.mov' using the
link.
 

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