Displacement operation acting on individual quadrature components

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the operation of displacement operators on quadrature components in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the mathematical implications of applying the displacement operator ##D(\alpha)## to the quadrature components ##X## and ##P##, questioning the resulting expressions and their correctness.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the operation ##D(\alpha)^\dagger X D(\alpha)##, specifically for the quadrature component ##X = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger)##.
  • Another participant questions the expectation that ##D(\alpha)^\dagger a^\dagger D(\alpha) = a^\dagger + \alpha^*## follows from the displacement operator's action on ##a##.
  • Concerns are raised about the correctness of the resulting expressions, with one participant expressing confusion over the expected form of the output after applying the displacement operator.
  • There is a suggestion that the expression for ##P = \frac{i}{\sqrt{2}} (a - a^\dagger)## should also yield a different result, leading to further exploration of the implications of the displacement operation.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of interpreting the displacement parameter ##\alpha## in terms of displacements in coordinate and momentum space, raising questions about its implications for the Hamiltonian.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the expected outcomes of the displacement operations, indicating that there is no consensus on the correctness of the derived expressions or the underlying assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the non-Hermitian nature of operator ##a## and its implications for the translational operation, suggesting that this may affect their understanding and the results obtained.

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Hi all,

I have a naive understanding of how operators work and wondered if someone could help me. I have tried to understand this myself, but alas, I think my knowledge is too premature to understand what I am reading online. Is someone able to explain?

I want to perform the operation ##D(\alpha)^\dagger X D(\alpha)##, where ##X## is one of the quadrature components ##X = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger)##. I know the following:

$$
D(\alpha)^\dagger a D(\alpha) = a + \alpha
$$

Does this mean ##D(\alpha)^\dagger a^\dagger D(\alpha) = a^\dagger + \alpha^*##?

If so, then:

$$
D(\alpha)^\dagger X D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} D(\alpha)^\dagger (a + a^\dagger) D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger + 2|\alpha|)
$$

This is not correct. I would have expected something like ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger + |\alpha|)##.

I am struggling even more to work out ##P##, where ##P = \frac{i}{\sqrt{2}} (a - a^\dagger)##. I get:

$$
D(\alpha)^\dagger P D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} D(\alpha)^\dagger (a - a^\dagger) D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a - a^\dagger)
$$

and it remains the same, which is not correct. I would also expect ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a - a^\dagger + |\alpha|)##.

Can someone tell me where I am going wrong?

I appreciate any help you can provide.
 
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Since operator a is not Hermitian, I am not sure and accoustomed to translational operation on it. Is it an exercise on textbook ?
 
waadles said:
Hi all,

I have a naive understanding of how operators work and wondered if someone could help me. I have tried to understand this myself, but alas, I think my knowledge is too premature to understand what I am reading online. Is someone able to explain?

I want to perform the operation ##D(\alpha)^\dagger X D(\alpha)##, where ##X## is one of the quadrature components ##X = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger)##. I know the following:

$$
D(\alpha)^\dagger a D(\alpha) = a + \alpha
$$

Does this mean ##D(\alpha)^\dagger a^\dagger D(\alpha) = a^\dagger + \alpha^*##?
That follows by taking the Hermitian conjugate of the equation.
waadles said:
If so, then:

$$
D(\alpha)^\dagger X D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} D(\alpha)^\dagger (a + a^\dagger) D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger + 2|\alpha|)
$$
Note that ##\alpha + \alpha^* = 2Re(\alpha)##.
waadles said:
This is not correct. I would have expected something like ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a + a^\dagger + |\alpha|)##.
Why did you expect that?
waadles said:
I am struggling even more to work out ##P##, where ##P = \frac{i}{\sqrt{2}} (a - a^\dagger)##. I get:

$$
D(\alpha)^\dagger P D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} D(\alpha)^\dagger (a - a^\dagger) D(\alpha) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (a - a^\dagger)
$$
In this case you should use ##\alpha - \alpha^* = 2iIm(\alpha)##.
 
PeroK said:
In this case you should use α−α∗=2iIm(α).
May we say about meaning of translation of a as
\alpha=\frac{d_x}{\sqrt{2}}-i\frac{d_p}{\sqrt{2}}
where d_x and d_p are displacement in coordinate and momentum space ?
If so it holds for the translated Hamiltoian, i.e.
(a^{\dagger} +\alpha^*)(a+\alpha)+\frac{1}{2}? It seems not obvious to me.
 

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