Do Aliens Exist? Proving Life Beyond Earth

[Norval]

I would rather discuss the potential that aliens are amongst us in this thread. Any sightings are only a small part of the overall bigger picture.

 

[dlgoff]

Norval,

You're the one who said you saw a ufo. If you won't explain, then I can only assume that you are just making this up.

regards

 

[Norval]

What, pray tell, is there to explain? Go read the net for all the sighting stories you want. This thread and my interest lay along the discovery of aliens and if indeed they are here just what is the reason? Start a thread about sightings if you want, I would be more than happy to ignore it as I do most threads. As I stated, I am satisfied that there is enough evidence to convince me that aliens are here. So get on with it or get over it.

 

[dlgoff]

Originally posted by Norval
What, pray tell, is there to explain? Go read the net for all the sighting stories you want. This thread and my interest lay along the discovery of aliens and if indeed they are here just what is the reason? Start a thread about sightings if you want, I would be more than happy to ignore it as I do most threads. As I stated, I am satisfied that there is enough evidence to convince me that aliens are here. So get on with it or get over it.

I thought this forum was Scepticism and debunking? So I'm trying to debunk and/or learn about what you have posted.

You can't tell what it looked like or it's movements, etc?

 

[Vast]

After reading a few reports on UFO’s (The Cometa in another thread) It seems the phenomenon of ET here on Earth is such that they’re strategy or intentions is to slowly acclimatize us to they’re presence.

The idea that we’re alone in the Universe is very much a part of our understanding throughout history. IMO it’s a product from the religious view that Earth was created from God, or humans are separated from other species. Another factor is that we’ve only recently discovered the true scale of the Universe, and thus in knowing such things conclude that Life here on Earth is not a just a freak event.

So with the possibility that many habitable planets exist, and our current obsession to find life on Mars, other planets and radio signals from ET, in the view of many its simply a matter of time.

On the other hand ET could quite possibly be here already, and as before in the case that our species simply isn’t evolved enough to have any intellectual capabilities, there is no need to make contact. Perhaps we are on the edge of finding life in the Universe and ET just happens to be here simultaneously making its presence known in incremental steps.

 

[Norval]

Then again too, that a god may have created humans with more capabilities of intelligence than were given the other created beings out there in the universe? Maybe that is why ET would be so interested in humans? They may be far in advance of us with their technologies, but that does NOT make them more intelligent.

 

[Vast]

Technology I think has a lot to do with knowledge, and the removal of incoherent concepts.
New discoveries challenge incorrect belief systems and eventually get accepted, so our understanding of the Universe is a clearer one. I wasn’t implying that we’re an unintelligent species, but that our knowledge is incomplete and always evolving.

That said, for a civilization wanting to know if life exists elsewhere, it needs to develop the means to find it. Without a doubt some are convinced life is abundant, and in the scenario that ET/s finds us first, (which I think is highly probable) what is the method of interaction? For one it could be observation.

 

[gunblaze]

Quote:On the other hand ET could quite possibly be here already, and as before in the case that our species simply isn’t evolved enough to have any intellectual capabilities, there is no need to make contact. Perhaps we are on the edge of finding life in the Universe and ET just happens to be here simultaneously making its presence known in incremental steps.

hmm...that's a good one

if this theory is right then it will be true for those who said they saw UFO's in the sky! NV would we have expected that for all the time that we had spent to research other planets for these extra terrestrials, they r juz neighbours who lived on the same planet as us!

these would make more sense as to why we see UFO's flying around our area, like they would also see planes flying around pass their area too!

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by Norval
Physicists said the same thing about the sound barrier. It can't be broken.

Grrrr. Just be glad the others answered this one already. This is one of my biggest pet peve misconceptions that people have about science. To reiterate simply: its wrong.

 

[RG500]

ET?
According to Carl Sagan, there are no less than 400 habitable Earth like possibilities in the cosmos as he believed it to be. You are more than welcome to argue this with Dr. Sagan if you wish but I'd rather not go visit him quite yet.
Isn't it completely possible that ET could be living among us at this very time in another, as yet to be discovered, dimension?
We normally see reflected light, what if ET does not reflect light that we are capable of seeing either with the naked eye or with instruments that we now have?
When I visited the UFO museum in Roswell the curator told me of a man who visited the museum that did not believe in ET because no one had ever seen ET. To this the curator ask the man if he believed in God, "yes" was his answer. The curator went on to ask, "have you ever seen God?" End of discussion.

 

[Monique]

At one point I was an alien.. but I guess that doesn't count

 

[Ivan Seeking]

ET?
According to Carl Sagan, there are no less than 400 habitable Earth like possibilities in the cosmos as he believed it to be. You are more than welcome to argue this with Dr. Sagan if you wish but I'd rather not go visit him quite yet.
Isn't it completely possible that ET could be living among us at this very time in another, as yet to be discovered, dimension?
We normally see reflected light, what if ET does not reflect light that we are capable of seeing either with the naked eye or with instruments that we now have?
When I visited the UFO museum in Roswell the curator told me of a man who visited the museum that did not believe in ET because no one had ever seen ET. To this the curator ask the man if he believed in God, "yes" was his answer. The curator went on to ask, "have you ever seen God?" End of discussion.

Personally, and based on the evidence - the fact that we are here and since the universe is so big, with billions and billions of possibilities for life elsewhere - I think the universe is almost certainly full of life; and probably with many forms of intelligent life in some sense. I'm not as confident that there are many creatures a lot like us.

As for other dimensions and the like, yes, some scientists like Michio Kaku believe that another universe may exist "just a millimeter above ours" [whatever that means]. However, this is not to say that invisible aliens from that universe walk among us. Simply put, we have no reason to believe what you suggest - there is no recognized evidence to support the idea. I could just as well claim that gravity is really due to undetectable, invisible tricksters from the netherworld. We can't prove that it's not true, but there is surely no reason to believe it.

 

[The_Professional]

Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus