Do You Hear Words When Reading to Yourself?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of subvocalization and the mental processes involved when individuals read to themselves, particularly in leisure contexts. Participants explore whether they hear words in their heads, visualize images, or engage in other cognitive activities while reading.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that they hear words in their heads while reading, while others do not, indicating a variety of reading experiences.
  • One participant mentions that they only hear words when they consciously think about it, suggesting a conditional relationship between awareness and subvocalization.
  • Another participant describes a tendency to visualize scenes and emotions rather than focusing on the words themselves, which affects their reading comprehension.
  • Some participants discuss the concept of subvocalization, noting that it can limit reading speed and that speed readers may bypass this habit.
  • A participant references a historical anecdote about a priest who could read silently, prompting questions about the evolution of reading practices.
  • There are differing opinions on the plausibility of the monk story, with some finding it credible while others challenge its validity.
  • One participant shares their experience of reading math, indicating a need for internal repetition to understand complex material.
  • Several participants mention that their reading habits change based on the type of material, with fiction eliciting more auditory engagement compared to non-fiction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether hearing words in one's head is a universal experience while reading. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of reading and subvocalization.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the historical context of reading practices and the implications of subvocalization on reading comprehension and speed. There are also references to personal experiences that may not generalize to all readers.

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When you read to yourself, say for leisure (not reading physics or mathematics for example) or in 'ordinary circumstances', do you hear each word in your head?

I think I might just be a retard, but it turns out that I'm skim-reading if and only if I don't 'hear the words in my head'.

People weren't always able to do this easily. In fact, there was one priest in the ancient world who was renown for the ability to absorb information from literature without making any sound or even moving his lips.

How weird is that.
 
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Jerbearrrrrr said:
When you read to yourself, say for leisure (not reading physics or mathematics for example) or in 'ordinary circumstances', do you hear each word in your head?

I think I might just be a retard, but it turns out that I'm skim-reading if and only if I don't 'hear the words in my head'.

People weren't always able to do this easily. In fact, there was one priest in the ancient world who was renown for the ability to absorb information from literature without making any sound or even moving his lips.

How weird is that.

That last part sounds made up frankly, but people generally either think in language or through image - the two most dominant of our senses.
 
Yeah I just saw it on TV, on QI a second ago. Not the gospel truth necessarily, but it's meant to be a programme that looks for counter-intuitive truths (somewhat in the sense of mythbusters). It's quite high profile in the UK, but granted, doesn't have any bearing on its validity.

Anyway, I wish I could find out how I thought about things (surpress the urge to clarify definitions for now) before language was known. :\
 
People weren't always able to do this easily. In fact, there was one priest in the ancient world who was renown for the ability to absorb information from literature without making any sound or even moving his lips.
This last part doesn't make sense. People weren't always able to do what easily?
And who can't read without moving their lips? That's not a talent.
 
Jerbearrrrrr said:
When you read to yourself, say for leisure (not reading physics or mathematics for example) or in 'ordinary circumstances', do you hear each word in your head?

I think I might just be a retard, but it turns out that I'm skim-reading if and only if I don't 'hear the words in my head'.

People weren't always able to do this easily. In fact, there was one priest in the ancient world who was renown for the ability to absorb information from literature without making any sound or even moving his lips.

How weird is that.

Reading fiction, I always hear the words. Even different voices for different characters, haha.
 
leroyjenkens said:
This last part doesn't make sense. People weren't always able to do what easily?
And who can't read without moving their lips? That's not a talent.

I think the idea is that it used to be hard for humans to read. I find it pretty incredulous though.

When I'm reading math especially I need to repeat everything again in my head or I find myself skipping through all the equations with no idea what really happened. When just reading fiction or something I tend to skip a lot of details anyway because I'm lazy
 
I can hear the words, but I mostly concentrate on the mental picture that is evolving, and then forget about hearing the internal voice. Sometimes it's very difficult to read books that are very linear. In most nonfiction books I read, I like to skip around to the middle, or the ending to get an idea of what's going on, and then skip back to the beginning, and repeat this many times.
 
Jerbearrrrrr said:
When you read to yourself, say for leisure (not reading physics or mathematics for example) or in 'ordinary circumstances', do you hear each word in your head? ...

When reading literature, I find that I don't pay much attention to the words at all, probably just enough attention to maintain accuracy. Instead, a great deal of my concentration is focused on the images that are created by whatever I happen to be reading: facial expressions, body language, voice intonations, emotions, scenery, general mood, lighting, etc.
 
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Many people sound the words out in their throat without realizing it. This is referred to as subvocalization. This seems to be the result of the way we learn to read. We first read out loud exclusively, but eventually are told to read to ourselves. At first we probably move our lips, but then we are chastised to the point that we stop even that. However, due to the training, most people continue to sound out the words in their throat. Since no one is able to observe this effect by watching, this habit is not typically broken.

This is what limits reading speed in many people. Speed readers do not do this, but are able to take in groups of words without the need to sound out any individual words.

I broke this subvocalization habit when I learned how to speed read in high school. It turns out the mind can absorb words much faster than we typically speak. I'm able to read a novel at about 3 times faster than normal, but it requires total concentration, is mentally tiring and is not always fun. Because of this I tend not to read this fast unless I'm in a rush. I assume that I revert back to subvocalization when I do read normally, but I really have no way to know for sure. However, sometimes, I get into a book and automatically accelerate to high speed reading without effort and without even realizing it. It's really cool when it happens.

Based on this experience, I conclude that Jerbearrrrrr is not a retard at all.
 
  • #11
I only hear the words when I think about whether or not I hear the words.
 
  • #12
Alienjoey said:
I only hear the words when I think about whether or not I hear the words.

Think about this: can you hear me? What you heard right then, that was actually me :smile:.
 
  • #13
I usually only read for leisure so I tend to take my time and "hear" what I am reading. When I am not really enjoying a book much I may start speeding through though I find I have trouble remembering much of what I read when I speed read.

lisab said:
Think about this: can you hear me? What you heard right then, that was actually me :smile:.

You have a cute typing voice. ;-)
 
  • #14
I don't usually hear what I'm reading, I just read through it.
 
  • #15
Evo said:
I don't usually hear what I'm reading, I just read through it.
Can you count while you are reading?
What you do in your mind when you counting?
 
  • #16
estro said:
Can you count while you are reading?
What you do in your mind when you counting?
Surely you're joking, Mr. Estro.
 
  • #17
stevenb said:
We first read out loud exclusively, but eventually are told to read to ourselves. At first we probably move our lips, but then we are chastised to the point that we stop even that.
Yes, this is why the monk story is completely plausible. In a society of people who are not chastised for reading aloud exclusively, every one would continue to do this their whole lives. Someone who started reading silently would seem like a freak.
 
  • #18
I hear a vague "echo" of the sound in my head, like a radio far away in the distance.

When I type, the sound from hitting the keys also makes for a "voice" of sorts.
 
  • #19
zoobyshoe said:
Surely you're joking, Mr. Estro.
I'm not=)
 
  • #20
estro said:
I'm not=)

My bad. I referenced the wrong book. I should have asked "What do you care if people can count while reading?"

Feynman conducted experiments of this nature with a buddy of his. It's in "What Do You Care What Other People Think?"
 
  • #21
zoobyshoe said:
My bad. I referenced the wrong book. I should have asked "What do you care if people can count while reading?"

Feynman conducted experiments of this nature with a buddy of his. It's in "What Do You Care What Other People Think?"

This why I asked this question.
I worship Feynman=)

Reading Feynman causes me chills=)
 
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