Does a Strong Economy Guarantee a President's Re-Election?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between economic conditions and presidential re-election outcomes, examining historical examples and theories. Participants explore various elections, the impact of economic performance on voter behavior, and the role of charisma in elections, particularly during challenging economic times.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a strong economy typically favors the incumbent party in presidential elections, citing historical examples from 1956 to 2008.
  • Another participant raises the example of Franklin D. Roosevelt's repeated elections during the Great Depression, questioning the initial claim about economic conditions and electoral outcomes.
  • Some participants note that while Hoover lost to Roosevelt as the economy declined, Roosevelt's subsequent elections occurred during periods of improving economic conditions, despite the ongoing depression.
  • There is a discussion about the potential influence of charisma on elections, with references to Obama and Reagan's approval ratings in relation to economic performance.
  • One participant mentions that in 2012, despite a recovering economy, the political landscape could still favor Obama due to the Republican Party's unpopularity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the extent to which economic conditions guarantee electoral outcomes. While some agree that economic performance influences voter behavior, others highlight exceptions and historical complexities, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various historical contexts and economic conditions, noting that the relationship between economy and electoral success may depend on specific circumstances, including the timing of economic changes and the political climate.

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My rule for presidential elections is: If the economy is well, voters will support the empowered party. If the economy is not well, voters will support the opposing party.

Historical Context

1956
Economy: Well
Eisenhower is re-elected.

1960
Economy: Had a little downturn near end of decade.
Kennedy is elected over Nixon.

1964
Economy: Well
Johnson is re-elected

1968 - Okay, Vietnam was a huge exception

1972
Economy: Well
Nixon re-elected

1976
Economy: Concerns of inflation
Ford loses to Carter.

1980
Economy: Stagflation
Reagan defeats Carter

1984
Economy: Recovery
Reagan re-elected by landslide

1988
Economy: Still well
Bush succeeds Reagan.

1992
Economy: Unemployment increases.
Bush, once considered unbeatable, loses to Clinton because of economic concerns.

1996
Economy: Well
Clinton is re-elected

2000
Economy: Well
Gore won the popular vote here.

2004
Economy: Recovered from post-9/11 recession
Bush gets re-elected

2008
Economy: Downturn
Obama defeats McCain. As the economy got worse, McCain's support fell.

2012
?

Essayist Paul Graham has a theory that charisma wins elections, but can any president in a bad economy be charismatic?

Obama's approval rating fell since he could not find an instant cure to the recession.
Reagan's approval dropped in 1983 when the economy went into a recession.

In 2012, the economy has gotten better, though only slightly, but has not recovered. Barack Obama has a huge warchest and a Republican Party which is extremely unpopular, so he could end up being an exception to my rule.
 
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Have you considered the great depression with Roosevelt being elected time after time?
 
Of course.

Coolidge and Hoover were elected over a booming economy.
Hoover lost to Roosevelt as the economy sank into the Great Depression.

1936
Yes, the country was in the midst of a Great Depression, but economic conditions improved and unemployment rate went down in those years, significantly, even if the nation was still in a depression.

In 1940, the economy wasn't as bad as it was in 1929. And during WW2, the economy was booming, resulting in a 4th term.
 
jduster said:
Of course.

Coolidge and Hoover were elected over a booming economy.
Hoover lost to Roosevelt as the economy sank into the Great Depression.

1936
Yes, the country was in the midst of a Great Depression, but economic conditions improved and unemployment rate went down in those years, significantly, even if the nation was still in a depression.

In 1940, the economy wasn't as bad as it was in 1929. And during WW2, the economy was booming, resulting in a 4th term.

Also during World War II, people probably figured it best to leave the guy who was president in place, as opposed to bringing in someone totally new.
 

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