Does an aerial punch or kick transfer more power than a standing one?

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The discussion centers around whether an aerial punch or kick transfers more power compared to a standing technique. Participants explore the mechanics of impact, energy transfer, and the implications of body positioning during strikes, with a focus on martial arts techniques.

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  • Some participants question whether airborne techniques actually transfer more power, suggesting that the arrangement of bodies during impact is crucial to understanding energy transfer.
  • One participant emphasizes that power is defined as the rate of energy flow and argues that the total energy transferred during impact is more relevant than power alone.
  • Another participant raises the question of whether being suspended in the air affects mass, asserting that mass remains constant regardless of position.
  • Some participants note that not all airborne techniques are the same, and specific techniques may yield different results in terms of power transfer.
  • One participant argues that airborne strikes may lose energy due to Newton's 3rd Law, suggesting that redirecting energy through grounded techniques could be more effective.
  • A caveat is introduced regarding downward strikes, where being airborne might enhance power if the intent is to drive an opponent down.
  • Concerns are raised about the vulnerability associated with airborne techniques, suggesting that staying grounded may be a safer option.
  • There is a recognition that discussions about efficiency in martial arts often lead to confusion due to the loose use of terms like "mass," "power," and "force," which have precise definitions in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of aerial techniques versus grounded techniques, with no consensus reached on whether airborne strikes are more powerful. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clearer definitions and arrangements of bodies during impact, indicating that assumptions about energy transfer may vary based on specific techniques and contexts.

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All else, equal, does an airborne technique transfer more power?

I don't think it does but an instructional tape from the 80s claim so
 
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I think you should better define the arrangement of the bodies, before, during and after the impact.

Also, power is the rate of flow of energy, and we do not know how long the contact lasts. The total energy transferred by the impact would be more relevant.
 
Baluncore said:
I think you should better define the arrangement of the bodies, before, during and after the impact.

Also, power is the rate of flow of energy, and we do not know how long the contact lasts. The total energy transferred by the impact would be more relevant.
Does the fact that my body is suspended in the air have any impact on mass? All else equal.
 
Welcome, @Username34 ! :cool:

Based on your practical experience, what is your opinion on that?
Not all airborne techniques are the same; do you have one specific in mind?
 
Lnewqban said:
Welcome, @Username34 ! :cool:

Based on your practical experience, what is your opinion on that?
Not all airborne techniques are the same; do you have one specific in mind?

My experience is that it adds weight, but it's possible thats due to greater momentum. My body should have the same mass in the air, right? So it shouldnt affect .

I am going to look up the exact quote from the 80s TaeKwonDO instructional. It think it's BS
 
I would argue that, most of the time, it doesn’t. In the air, you’re completely in the realm of Newton’s 3rd Law, so you’re going to lose some of your energy to applying that “equal and opposite reaction” that would push you away from your target. Better to redirect that, for lack of a better term, recoil, into the ground via your feet and legs, letting you transfer far more power.

Now, I will admit there’s a caveat to this: downward blows. If your intent is to drive your opponent into the ground, you can get more power behind your strike if you’re airborne and descending.

Tactically, though, it’s a huge gamble. You’re putting yourself in a position where you’re vulnerable to upsets and uncertain footing. I would argue it’s a safer bet to stay grounded and planted.

Then again, as an unscientific aside, my opinion is that if you’re in hand to hand fighting, you have severely screwed up. 😆
 
Username34 said:
Does the fact that my body is suspended in the air have any impact on mass? All else equal.

No.

Sadly, it is not the first time we have discussion on the efficiency of different techniques used in hand combat. They often end poorly, as the martial art community tends to use terms like "mass", "power", "force" very loosely, completely missing the fact they have a very precisely defined meaning in physics.
 
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