Does entanglement of photons really facilitate telepathy?

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The discussion centers on the hypothesis that photon entanglement, in conjunction with the Earth's magnetic field, could facilitate telepathy. Participants explore the implications of quantum mechanics, particularly entanglement and teleportation, in relation to this idea, while questioning the validity of the claims made by a cited lecture and study.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a lecture by Persinger that suggests a link between photon entanglement and telepathy, questioning its scientific validity.
  • One participant asks for counterarguments to the notion that the idea is merely "woo and nonsense."
  • There is a discussion about whether the achievement of photon teleportation in 2017 provides indirect proof for the claims made by Persinger.
  • Another participant highlights the no communication theorem, arguing that while quantum teleportation can transfer information via a classical channel, it does not support the idea of telepathy.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the interpretation of "correlated events" observed in brain studies, suggesting that such correlations do not equate to telepathy.
  • One participant argues that if telepathy were possible through magnetic fields, there would be no need for quantum entanglement, as classical methods could suffice.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of the claims regarding telepathy and photon entanglement. There is no consensus on whether the arguments presented support or refute the hypothesis.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of control cases in experiments to establish baseline expectations for observed correlations, indicating that the current interpretations may lack sufficient rigor.

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TL:DR I just want to know if photons are entangled then can they transfer information.... I do know the no communication theorem states that this isn't possible in cases of faster than light, but if quantum teleportation takes place via a classical channel, does this hold the guy's arguement true?
[This](https://youtu.be/9l6VPpDublg) is a lecture by Persinger where he postulates that photon entanglements and the Earth's magnetic field can facilitate telepathy. (See from 20:00 to 30:00)

Links to the study he cited:
http://neurosciarchive.byethost12.c...ween-physically-and-sensory-isolated-pair.pdfMy questions for you:-

• If you are ready to smack this as woo and nonsense, then could you provide some counter arguments?

•Since teleportation of photons has finally been achieved in 2017, do these point towards indirect proof for his postulating?

• Finally is the no communication theorem/no cloning theorem a proper argument towards this ? Thank you for your time :)
 
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Unbowed_epicure said:
I just want to know if photons are entangled then can they transfer information... I do know the no communication theorem states that this isn't possible in cases of faster than light, but if quantum teleportation takes place via a classical channel, does this hold the guy's argument true?
Quantum teleportation can be used to transfer information if a classical channel is used, yes.

However, that does not in itself establish anything about telepathy. Nor does the paper you link to; all it says is that "correlated events" were observed in the brains of different people subjected to similar magnetic brain stimulation. I suspect you could also find such "correlated events" in the brains of different people not subjected to similar magnetic brain simulation; at the very least, if one is going to conduct such experiments, one should include a control case with no artificial stimulation to establish what the baseline expectation is. But in any case, "correlated events" is a long, long, long way from "telepathy".
 
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Unbowed_epicure said:
photon entanglements and the Earth's magnetic field can facilitate telepathy.
Note that, since you need a classical channel anyway to transfer information using quantum entanglement, if it were possible to use magnetic fields interacting with brains to facilitate some kind of telepathy, there would be no need for any quantum entanglement, and it would seem foolish to use it since it's so much harder to set up. Simple classical magnetic fields and simple radio communication between devices should work just fine if this sort of thing is possible at all.
 
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