Does gravity get destroyed in a black hole ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of gravity in the context of black holes, specifically questioning whether gravity is destroyed within them. Participants explore the relationship between gravity, the Higgs mechanism, and the expansion of the universe.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if gravity gets destroyed in a black hole, linking this to the role of the Higgs particle in creating mass and suggesting that if Higgs bosons are destroyed, gravity in the universe would diminish.
  • Another participant asserts that gravity exists inside a black hole and emphasizes that the universe's expansion is attributed to the Big Bang and dark energy, rather than black holes or Higgs bosons.
  • A different participant claims that gravity is the one thing that a black hole does not destroy.
  • One participant clarifies that the Higgs mechanism is responsible for the rest mass of fundamental particles and argues that Higgs bosons do not significantly contribute to gravity since they are unstable and decay quickly.
  • This participant also refutes the idea that the destruction of Higgs bosons would lead to a decrease in total gravity, stating that the universe's expansion is unrelated to black holes or Higgs bosons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the relationship between gravity, black holes, and the Higgs mechanism. While some assert that gravity is not destroyed in black holes, others question the implications of Higgs bosons on gravity and the universe's expansion.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the Higgs mechanism and its implications for mass and gravity, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of gravity in extreme conditions like those found in black holes.

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Does gravity get destroyed in a black hole ? If the Higgs particle creates mass in the universe and higgs are destroyed in a black hole, then the total gravity in the universe must diminish over time , hence the universe expanding ?
 
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Gravity exists insides a black hole.

The expansion of the universe was caused in the big bang (but NOT as an explosion, in case you have that canard in your head) and the acceleration of the expansion is caused by what is given the place-holder name "dark energy" because we don't know what it is, just what it does.
 
Gravity is pretty much the only thing which a black hole does NOT destroy.
 
lee sarson said:
Does gravity get destroyed in a black hole ?
It does not.

lee sarson said:
If the Higgs particle creates mass in the universe

The higgs mechanism (not the particle) is responsible for the rest mass of fundamental particles. The mass of composite particles and systems of objects is a combination of this type of mass plus the energy inherent in the system.

lee sarson said:
and higgs are destroyed in a black hole

Higgs bosons are unstable and decay almost instantly. They do not exist in nature in any significant quantity.

lee sarson said:
then the total gravity in the universe must diminish over time

Certainly not.

lee sarson said:
hence the universe expanding ?

The universe is expanding, but it has nothing to do with black holes and higgs bosons.
 

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