Does it really matter where you get your B.Sc?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of the institution from which one obtains a Bachelor of Science (B.Sc) degree in Physics, particularly in relation to future academic and career opportunities. Participants share personal experiences and perspectives on how the choice of university may impact one's path to a Ph.D. and beyond.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the reputation of the university, such as the University of New Hampshire versus the University of Arizona, affects career outcomes in physics.
  • Another participant shares an example of a peer from a lesser-known university who successfully gained admission to Cambridge, suggesting that personal effort may outweigh institutional prestige.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of attending ABET certified schools for engineering, noting the lack of equivalent certification for physics programs, which raises questions about standardization in physics education.
  • There is a mention of the accreditation process for universities and how it may influence the quality of education, though it is acknowledged that variations exist between institutions.
  • A participant emphasizes that personal motivation and performance are crucial for success, regardless of the university attended.
  • Another participant reflects on a professor's experience, indicating that prestigious institutions do not guarantee a uniform background among successful individuals.

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Participants express differing views on the importance of the university attended, with some arguing that it does not significantly matter while others suggest that it may have some impact. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the weight of institutional reputation versus individual effort.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the efficacy of accreditation processes and the lack of a standardized certification body for physics programs, which may affect perceptions of educational quality.

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my major will be Physics and I am planning to do it all the way to Ph.D.. but does it really matter where you get your B.Sc degree? for instance, I am getting my Bachelor's from the university of New Hampshire, would it be better if i did it in say, the University of Arizona (which is ranked higher in physics)?

im really having a hard time choosing a school, I am afraid my choice would ultimately affect my career, can anyone who's experienced guide me, please?

Thanks
 
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I graduated with someone from Ball State University this past spring who majored in physics and got accepted into Cambridge University. So, no I don't think it matters where you graduate from. It's all about how hard you push yourself, not the name of the school you go to. Well, at least to some extent...
 
If you live in the US, look for ABET certified schools. It seems that everyone wants someone else to certify that they know what they're doing. I have doubts about the efficacy of this approach, but there is no use fighting that line of thinking because it is too prevalent.
 
JakeBrodskyPE said:
If you live in the US, look for ABET certified schools. It seems that everyone wants someone else to certify that they know what they're doing. I have doubts about the efficacy of this approach, but there is no use fighting that line of thinking because it is too prevalent.

ABET certifies engineering programs, ACS certifies chemistry programs, but I don't think there's an equivalent certification body for physics programs. Schools just teach the "standard classes" that other schools teach.
 
chill_factor said:
I don't think there's an equivalent certification body for physics programs.

Correct.

If the school as a whole is accredited by one of the regional accrediting agencies, each department is examined by an external review team of faculty from other schools as part of re-accreditation of the entire school every ten years. If they notice something they consider substandard, they report it and the school has to address it somehow. If it's serious enough, it might affect their accreditation. But this process still leaves a lot of leeway for variations between schools that serve different kinds of students and have different missions.
 
I'm in a pretty good program for engineering, and I didn't even go to a top 100 school as an undergrad. There are others in the program from no name universities too. Basically just do research and get good grades. That's all you can really do. Graduate undergrad with as little debt as possible and do well. You'll get into somewhere decent if you're motivated enough. Motivated individuals succeed no matter what situation they're placed in.
 
In the long run, no, what you do is much more important than where you go to school.

In the short run... well, I had a physics professor who got his Ph.D. from Stanford. He claimed he was the only person in his cohort who got his bachelor's from a public university.
 

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