Does Tautomerization Regenerate Phenylethanone in NaH Reaction?

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The discussion centers on the reaction of phenylethanone with sodium hydride (NaH) followed by an acid quench, specifically addressing the role of tautomerization in regenerating phenylethanone. Participants clarify that NaH acts as a hydride donor, targeting the hydrogen on the methyl group, which leads to the formation of an enol upon acid quenching. The conversation also explores whether the tautomerization process can regenerate phenylethanone or if the reaction pathway diverges due to the nature of NaH compared to other reducing agents. The lack of specified reagent amounts is noted as a potential variable in the reaction outcome.

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The instructions only specified that phenylethanone would react with NaH followed by an acid quench. I know that NaH provides a hydride (H-), and this will "take" one of the hydrogens on the exposed methyl group.

I followed this by pushing electrons so that the negative charge was on the oxygen, rather than carbon, and the acid quench (H+) would form an enol. However, doesn't tautomerization to a ketone product just regenerate phenylethanone again, or am I missing something? Thank you for your time. No amounts for any reagent were specified.
 
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What happens if, instead of thinking of H- as a base, you think of it as a nucleophile?
 
Natalie456 said:
The instructions only specified that phenylethanone would react with NaH followed by an acid quench. I know that NaH provides a hydride (H-), and this will "take" one of the hydrogens on the exposed methyl group.

I followed this by pushing electrons so that the negative charge was on the oxygen, rather than carbon, and the acid quench (H+) would form an enol. However, doesn't tautomerization to a ketone product just regenerate phenylethanone again, or am I missing something? Thank you for your time.No amounts for any reagent were specified.

Does it? I’m rusty but I thought the H- went to the carbonyl C*, after which you can’t make that tautomerism work. Is NaH qualitatively different from other reducing agents?
Can you write out a scheme?

*Often pictured as δ+ due to electron withdrawal onto the more electronegative O pictured =O δ-.
 
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