Does the breakdown of the wave function need a concsious observer?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether the collapse of the wave function in quantum mechanics requires a conscious observer, exploring the implications of experimental setups and the role of instrumentation in this process.

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  • Some participants argue that the collapse of the wave function does not necessitate a conscious observer, suggesting that the experimental setup itself can lead to collapse through instrumentation.
  • Others emphasize that the notion of consciousness influencing wave function collapse is a misconception, labeling it as "quantum hype" and asserting that it complicates the understanding of quantum mechanics unnecessarily.
  • A participant recalls a previous discussion on the same topic, indicating that this question has been raised before in the forum.

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Participants generally disagree on the necessity of a conscious observer for wave function collapse, with multiple competing views presented regarding the role of instrumentation and consciousness.

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Someone told me that in the experiments which display the collapse of the wave function, there is no need for a conscious observer. They said if we left an observing instrument on its own it would manage to do the same thing. Is this true? In fact this person thinks that the instrument interferes with the experiments and that’s why the wave function collapses.
 
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no. its just how the experiment is setup.

even if no human/life is observing you can still "collapse the wave function" via instrumentation/setup.

nothing to do with consciousness...though many people/webpages love to link it that way...to make it more mysterious/fun...;)
 
San K said:
no. its just how the experiment is setup.

nothing to do with consciousness...though many people/webpages love to link it that way...to make it more mysterious/fun...;)

Exactly, that's quantum hype! :-)
 
Someone asked this question about a week ago I think. Perhaps someone who remembers the thread title can link to it.

Edit: I think this thread from two days ago is the one I only vaguely remembered. :smile:
 
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