does the hup essentially represent the "wall" or "curtain" of the universe? what i mean is, when you don't have any observable ability of whats going on behind a white curtain, if occurrences behind the curtain produce spots on the curtain which we see but we do no see their cause, we can only conclude that the spots appear at random. i think its possible that an electrons behavior is so erratic that using probability to model the electron can achieve what some people regard as very precise predictions. i myself think that if electron behavior was truly probabilistic then qm would be infinitely more precise, perhaps giving absolute correct predictions, an that qm precision is incredibly imprecise compared possible levels of precision. the fact that we can only know so much doesnt bother me. its that i feel our minds our incredibly capable of intuitively understanding the actual nature of the universe, and possibly the most stubborn believer of this, einstein, was smarter than anybody on this forum. anybody who believes "God" plays dice or that there is such thing as a fair coin in this universe... i dont think they should be in physics.