Does this problem require knowing the density of water?

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem concerning the calculation of molality for an aqueous solution, specifically addressing the interpretation of the density provided in the problem statement. Participants explore the implications of using the density of the solution versus the density of the solute.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents the problem and attempts a solution by assuming a volume of 1 L for the solution, leading to confusion regarding the density of water needed for further calculations.
  • Post 2 clarifies that the density of 1.56 g/mL refers to the solution, not the solute, and questions how to determine the mass of water in the solution.
  • Post 3 acknowledges the misreading of the problem and reports successfully solving it after recognizing the correct interpretation of the density, arriving at an answer of 6.67 molality.
  • Post 4 comments on the wording of the problem, suggesting it is poorly constructed and expressing that such confusion is common among students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the density in the problem refers to the solution, but there is disagreement regarding the clarity of the problem statement and its potential to mislead students.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of precise wording in problems and the assumptions made regarding the density of water, which is not explicitly provided in the problem.

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Homework Statement



What is the molality of an aqueous solution of a compound with a molar mass of 120. g/mol that has a density of 1.56 g/mL and a molarity of 5.78 M?

(A) 6.67 m
(B) 5.78 m
(C) 120. m
(D) 1.56 m
(E) None of the Above

Homework Equations


Molality= moles solute/kilograms solvent


The Attempt at a Solution



I assumed a volume of 1 L of solution, leaving me with 5.78 moles solute.

5.78 moles solute x 120 g/mole solute = 693.6 g solute

693.6 g solute x 1 mL/ 1.56 g solute =444.615 mL (the space taken up by the solute)

1000 ml(b/c I assumed 1 L solution)- 444.615= 555.385 ml (volume of solvent, water)

I don't know where to go from here b/c I don't know what the density of water is at whatever temperature the solution is at.
 
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I believe you are misreading the question. 1.56 g/mL is density of the solution, not of the solute. If so, what is mass of the 1L of the solution? How much of this mass is water?

If 1.56 g/mL is intended to be density of the solute, there is not enough information to solve the problem.
 
Thanks so much Borek.

Yes, I was misreading the problem. I tried solving it again using 1.56 g/mL as the density of the entire solution and I got the right answer, which is a) 6.67 molality.

I got to start reading these problems more carefully. :approve:
 
I am not surprised you misread the problem, it is lousy worded and confusing. For me it was obvious as I have seen zillions of such questions.
 

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