Does vacuum excitation violate the conservation of energy?

In summary, the law of conservation of energy seems to be violated if the field is at the vacuum state initially.
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Does vacuum excitation violate the conservation of energy?
Hi, there. I am reading the article Relativistic quantum optics: The relativistic invariance of the light-matter interaction models by Eduardo Martin-Martinez el al (2018).

Here he calculate the transition probability of a vacuum excitation for a detector.

Suppose there is a lab where the electricmagnetic field is quantizedthe, and a detector atom is traveling relative to the lab. Assume that the initial state of the detector atom and the field is the ground state ##\left | g,0 \right >##. Then the transition probability of the vacuum excitation is given by
##p\left ( \Omega \right)=\sum_{out} \left | \left < {e}, {out} \right | U \left | {g}, 0 \right > \right | ^2##
where the sum over states ##\left | {out} \right >## represent a sum over an orthonormal basis of possible final states of the field.

At last, he derived a expression for ##P\left ( \Omega \right )## which is not zero.

But if the detector atom was at the ground state and the field was at the vacuum state initially, and then the atom was excited and the field could be some state other than the vacuum state, the law of conservation of energy seems to be violated.

How could that be possible?
 
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Well, since there is a "detector atom" it's not vacuum anymore. I think the idea of "vacuum fluctuations" as used in hand-waving arguments (usually in popular-science textbooks but unfortunately sometimes even in textbooks in an attempt of some authors wanting to be "didactical") is the most confusing misguidance of students ever! Don't take it too literarly.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Well, since there is a "detector atom" it's not vacuum anymore. I think the idea of "vacuum fluctuations" as used in hand-waving arguments (usually in popular-science textbooks but unfortunately sometimes even in textbooks in an attempt of some authors wanting to be "didactical") is the most confusing misguidance of students ever! Don't take it too literarly.
So the state of the field is not really the vacuum state? Wait a munite. I think I have read something similar in the quantum field theory.

I remember that the vacuum states are different in the free field theory and the interacting field theory. Is this relavant?
 
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Yes, it is. The vacuum state is by definition the ground state of your quantum field theory and thus there are no energy fluctuations, because it's an energy eigenstate by definition.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Yes, it is. The vacuum state is by definition the ground state of your quantum field theory and thus there are no energy fluctuations, because it's an energy eigenstate by definition.

Thanks! I got it. Thus initially, the field is at the vacuum state for the interacting theory since it is coupled to the atom. After interacting with the atom, the field becomes the vacuum state for the free theory.
 
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No, it's even simpler: If there is an atom, there's no vacuum anymore, because there's a nucleus and electrons.
 
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vanhees71 said:
No, it's even simpler: If there is an atom, there's no vacuum anymore, because there's a nucleus and electrons.

Well, I am confused again.

If the vacuum state is the state with the lowest energy, then after the atom is excited, the field should lose some energy and drop to a lower state, but there is no lower state.

If the vacuum state is not the lowest state, then the name "vacuum state" is quite odd.
 
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Sure, but the vacuum is the state where nothing is there, no atom and no field.
 
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1. What is vacuum excitation?

Vacuum excitation refers to the phenomenon in quantum field theory where particles and antiparticles spontaneously appear and disappear in empty space, also known as the vacuum.

2. How does vacuum excitation relate to the conservation of energy?

According to the law of conservation of energy, energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. Vacuum excitation seems to violate this law by creating particles and antiparticles out of nothing. However, these particles and antiparticles quickly annihilate each other, resulting in a net energy of zero.

3. Can vacuum excitation be observed or measured?

No, vacuum excitation cannot be directly observed or measured. It is a theoretical concept used to explain certain phenomena in quantum field theory.

4. Is vacuum excitation a proven concept?

While there is strong evidence for vacuum excitation in quantum field theory, it is still a subject of ongoing research and debate. Some theories, such as the holographic principle, suggest that the vacuum may not be truly empty and could contain a finite amount of energy.

5. How does vacuum excitation impact our understanding of the universe?

Vacuum excitation plays a crucial role in our understanding of the subatomic world and helps explain the behavior of particles and antiparticles. It also has implications for the study of gravity and the nature of space and time. However, its exact role in the universe and its relation to the conservation of energy are still being explored by scientists.

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