Domain Wall Geometries: Continuous Coordinates, Discontinuous Metric

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The discussion revolves around domain wall geometries in the context of general relativity, specifically focusing on the use of continuous coordinates and discontinuous metrics. Participants explore the implications of different coordinate choices in describing a spherical symmetric situation involving a bubble of spacetime, such as de Sitter or anti-de Sitter, and the challenges in finding references that illustrate these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a setup where the metric is continuous across a domain wall while the static time coordinate is discontinuous, with the radial coordinate being continuous.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of a discontinuous static time coordinate, arguing that it seems to violate the requirements of a coordinate chart.
  • A third participant draws an analogy between domain walls in general relativity and idealized situations in electromagnetism, suggesting that discontinuities can be useful in certain theoretical frameworks.
  • A later reply acknowledges the importance of junction conditions in gravity but emphasizes the need for different gauge choices in parametrizing the geometry, expressing difficulty in locating references for the alternative gauge choice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of discontinuous coordinates and metrics, with some challenging the feasibility of these concepts while others support their theoretical utility. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the existence of references for the proposed gauge choices.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the topic, noting the dependence on specific gauge choices and the potential for confusion regarding the definitions and requirements of coordinate charts in general relativity.

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Hi all, I need some help regarding domain wall geometries, essentially a bubble of some spacetime (say deSiiter or flat) inside another kind, say anti-deSitter. For simplicity it is spherical symmetric situation and we are intent on using Schwarzschild like static coordinates. So now I am used to the set up where the metric is continuous across the (infinitely thin) domain wall/bubble wall, while the static time coordinate is discontinuous across while the radial coordinate is a global (continuous) coordinate.

But I have heard that one can also set up coordinates so that the metric is discontinuous while BOTH the static coordinates "r" and "t" are continuous. My problem is I can't seem to locate a reference where this is done or illustrated. All the references I can locate use continuous metric and discontinuous coordinates.

I would tremendously appreciate if any of you forum members/user can suggest a reference on "continuous coordinates/ discontinuous metric" choice.
 
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Roy_1981 said:
the static time coordinate is discontinuous

I don't understand what this means. If you are using a single coordinate chart, the coordinate values must change continuously from event to event everywhere in the chart. So a discontinuous coordinate appears to violate a basic requirement of a coordinate chart.

Roy_1981 said:
I have heard that one can also set up coordinates so that the metric is discontinuous

This would also violate a basic requirement of a coordinate chart.
 
Just as idealized situations with surface charge layers and distributional (delta function) volume charge densities, and with electric field discontinuities are useful in undergrad electromagnetism, mass hypersurface layers with metric component discontinuities and distributional stress-energy tensors are useful in general relativity, e.g., for domain walls. This is called the the thin shell/junction condition formalism.
 
Hi George Jones,

Indeed you are in the right direction. In case of gravity you can integrate Einstein equation across the shell to obtain junction conditions, relating metric derivatives to matter on thin shell. But what I asked is a bit different - its about a choice of gauge (coordinates) and as I mentioned there are two choices (perhaps more) to parametrize the geometry. atm I just can't seem to locate any reference which uses the second gauge choice.
 

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