Drawing a force triangle for acceleration down a slope

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Left: black right triangle with angle θ at the bottom right, blue arrows showing a force diagram with a label 9.81 pointing down and a label 2 on a slanted arrow. Right: handwritten red sketch of a triangle with sides labelled 2 and 9.81, angle θ, and the equation sin(θ) = 9.81/2, with handwritten text 'why am I wrong??'


the black triangle is given, and red triangle is me trying to work it out
why is my trangle wrong? and what is the right triangle?
someone is sliding down a slope, with 2ms-2 of acceleration (not actually given which direction, maybe I'm wrong there, but the person is acelerating at 2ms-2 down the slope)

why is my triangle wrong? can some one please draw me a right triangle...
i can't believe I'm stuck on this...
 
1832vin said:
Handwritten sketch comparing a force diagram on the left with a red triangle on the right, where sin(θ) = 9.81/2 is written and the hand-drawn text reads "why am I wrong??"


the black triangle is given, and red triangle is me trying to work it out
why is my trangle wrong? and what is the right triangle?
someone is sliding down a slope, with 2ms-2 of acceleration (not actually given which direction, maybe I'm wrong there, but the person is acelerating at 2ms-2 down the slope)

why is my triangle wrong? can some one please draw me a right triangle...
i can't believe I'm stuck on this...
What do the vectors represent?

How should they be related to each other?

What is the problem you're trying to solve?
 
Charles Link said:
Try ## \sin \theta=2/9.81 ##. (Your second triangle is incorrect).
yes, i know that'd be the right answer

but why have i got it wrong? thankyou
 
1832vin said:
yes, i know that'd be the right answer

but why have i got it wrong? thankyou
The downward gravitational force is ## F_g=mg ##. This can be broken into two components, one parallel to the plane and one perpendicular. The perpendicular component gets canceled by the force the plane exerts on the object. All acceleration is along the plane. You should be able to figure out the remaining part.
 
The 90° angle is opposite to the side of length 9.81. It is the hypotenuse of the yellow right triangle. In your drawing, the right triangle is opposite the shorter side. In every triangle, a side opposite to a smaller angle is shorter than a side opposite to a greater angle. If one angle is 90° in a triangle, the other angles must be smaller, as the sum of the angles can not exceed 180°. So the side opposite to a right angle is the longest side of the triangle.

Force diagram of a block on an incline at angle θ, with a blue arrow pointing down labelled 9.81 and a yellow right triangle formed by the weight vector, a perpendicular dropped to the slope, and the vertical line.
 
1832vin said:
Left: a black right triangle with a blue arrow from a red dot, labelled 2 along the slope and 9.81 downward, angle theta at the base. Right: a red handwritten version with 9.81 vertical, 2 along the hypotenuse, theta at the base, the words 'why am I wrong??' and sin(theta) = 9.81/2.


the black triangle is given, and red triangle is me trying to work it out
why is my trangle wrong? and what is the right triangle?
someone is sliding down a slope, with 2ms-2 of acceleration (not actually given which direction, maybe I'm wrong there, but the person is acelerating at 2ms-2 down the slope)

why is my triangle wrong? can some one please draw me a right triangle...
i can't believe I'm stuck on this...

Your red triangle is an impossible geometric figure: it is a right-triangle with a hypotenuse of 2 but a side of 9.81! Every right-triangle has a hypotenuse as large as each side (and strictly larger than both if it has not collapsed down to a straight-line segment).
 
@1832vin ,

Did you check to see what a calculator gives you for ##\ \sin^{-1}(4.9) \ ?##
 
1832vin said:
Hand-drawn red free-body diagram of a right triangle with hypotenuse labelled 2 and vertical side labelled 9.81, angle theta at the bottom right; handwritten text reads "why am I wrong??" and below it sin(theta) = 9.81/2 leading to sin^-1(4.9).


the black triangle is given, and red triangle is me trying to work it out
why is my trangle wrong? and what is the right triangle?
someone is sliding down a slope, with 2ms-2 of acceleration (not actually given which direction, maybe I'm wrong there, but the person is acelerating at 2ms-2 down the slope)

why is my triangle wrong? can some one please draw me a right triangle...
i can't believe I'm stuck on this...
The Pythagorean relation is central to understanding right triangles and the trig functions derived from them.

You should have this diagram memorized:


Right triangle with legs labelled a and b, hypotenuse labelled c, and the right angle marked at the bottom left. Below it reads a² + b² = c².

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This should avoid making silly mistakes like the triangle you drew originally. :smile:
 
1832vin said:
why is my triangle wrong
Your black triangle shows three vectors as blue arrows. The red triangle you obtain from that should have sides parallel to those three vectors. You have one parallel to the vertical blue arrow and one parallel to the downslope blue arrow, but your third is horizontal instead of normal to the slope.