Easy way to make carbonic acid from other chemicals

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The discussion revolves around methods to produce carbonic acid from other chemicals, particularly in the context of simulating acid rain effects on copper. Participants explore various approaches and commercial products that may contain carbonic acid or facilitate its formation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests saturating a solution with carbon dioxide as a method to create carbonic acid, noting that pure carbonic acid requires specific conditions to exist.
  • Another participant mentions that commercial tablets likely produce carbon dioxide, which dissolves in water to form carbonic acid, speculating that these tablets may contain sodium bicarbonate and an acid like citric acid.
  • Suggestions include using seltzer water or placing a copper sample in a soda bottle with water and adding dry ice to generate carbonic acid.
  • There are warnings against sealing dry ice in an airtight container due to safety concerns, with one participant sharing a personal anecdote about carbonating homemade root beer.
  • A humorous remark references the idea that the amount of a substance determines its potential danger, paraphrasing Paracelsus.

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Participants present multiple methods and ideas for producing carbonic acid, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the effectiveness of the commercial products mentioned. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the safety and practicality of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed depend on specific conditions or assumptions about the stability of carbonic acid and the composition of commercial products, which are not fully clarified.

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Easy way to make carbonic acid from other chemicals
Hi, everyone. I would like to test for the reaction between carbonic acid and copper (to simulate the effect of acid rain on copper). However, I find that many supplies failed to provide carbonic acid (either in powder or liquid form). Some says that carbonic acid is unstable and thus cannot supply it. Therefore, I want to make it myself. Are there any simple ways to make carbonic acid from other chemicals (e.g. sodium carbonate?).

Also, I have found some carbonic acid powder in some commercial product such as this one:
https://www.hktvmall.com/hktv/en/ma...Acid-Cool-Bathing-Powder/p/S1098001_S_HKG-024

But it is for bathing instead of chemical use. Can they produce carbonic acid?

Any answers and comments are welcome. Thank you very much for helping.
 
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Just saturate the solution with carbon dioxide. As far as I remember pure carbonic acid requires quite exotic conditions to exist.
 
kelvin490 said:
Can they produce carbonic acid?

The tablets produce carbon-dioxide which dissolves in the water creating carbonic acid. Likely the tablets are sodium bi-carbonate and some solid acid. Alkaseltzer is similar and uses citric acid.

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Seltzer water? Or a drinking fountain without the syrup? How about placing copper sample into a soda pop bottle filled with water. “Pop” in a pellet of dry ice and close with screw cap.
 
chemisttree said:
“Pop” in a pellet of dry ice and close with screw cap.
PLEASE DON'T SEAL DRY ICE IN AN AIRTIGHT CONTAINER!
 
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PLEASE DON'T SEAL DRY ICE IN AN AIRTIGHT CONTAINER!
That’s how we used to carbonate homemade root beer. A pellet about the size of a pea into a 12 oz bottle and then cap it closed. Using a screw cap to close it implies using a plastic bottle, although I didn’t specify. One pellet in 12 oz isn’t going to make a bomb y’know!
 
Paraphrasing Paracelsus - it is a dose that makes a bomb.
 
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