Effusion Question about Uranium enrichening

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the effusion of uranium hexafluoride (UF6) gas containing two isotopes of uranium, specifically focusing on how many passages through a porous membrane are required to achieve a desired level of isotope purity. The context is grounded in the application of Graham's Law of Effusion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of velocity ratios for the isotopes and the impact of fluorine atoms' mass on these ratios. There is an exploration of how to properly calculate the percentage increase in velocity ratios after multiple passages through membranes.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen various attempts to clarify the calculations involved, with some participants suggesting reconsideration of the mass of fluorine in the calculations. There are ongoing explorations of how to derive the number of passages needed for the desired isotope ratio, with some guidance provided on calculating ratios after multiple passages.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including potential rounding errors and the need for precise calculations to avoid inaccuracies in the final result. The original poster's assumptions and methods are being scrutinized for completeness.

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Homework Statement


A gas with equal number densities of uranium hexafluoride (UF6) molecules containing two isotopes of uranium, atomic masses 235amu and 238amu, is passed through a porous membrane containing very small holes. Use Graham's Law of Effusion to calculate:

How many successive passages through similar membranes would be needed to produce one isotope contaminated by less than 1% of the other isotope?


Homework Equations


Grahams' Law: $$\frac{v_x}{v_y} = \sqrt{\frac{m_y}{m_x}}$$


The Attempt at a Solution


So we want ##v_x > 99##%## v_y##. I calculated that per passage, ## v_x## is greater than ##v_y## by about 1.006. Then I divided this by 100 to get the percentage increase and divided this by 99. This gives about 9840. I think the correct answer is about 1070.

Many thanks.
 
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Two passes mean 1.0062.
 
CAF123 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


So we want ##v_x > 99##%## v_y##. I calculated that per passage, ## v_x## is greater than ##v_y## by about 1.006. Then I divided this by 100 to get the percentage increase and divided this by 99. This gives about 9840. I think the correct answer is about 1070.

Many thanks.
For starters, have you considered the fluorine atoms' mass in your calculation? (It appears that you haven't)

Also, the 1.006 figure (or whatever you actually get after you account for the fluorine) is a ratio. Simply dividing it by 100 is not a way to get a percent. Instead, let me ask you this: if 1.006 is the isotope ratio after passing through one membrane, how would you calculate the ratio after passing through two membranes?

(Hint: see Borek's post :smile:)
 
Redbelly98 said:
For starters, have you considered the fluorine atoms' mass in your calculation? (It appears that you haven't)

In that case, per passage, the ratio would be $$\sqrt{\frac{238 + 19(6)}{235 + 19(6)}}$$

Also, the 1.006 figure (or whatever you actually get after you account for the fluorine) is a ratio. Simply dividing it by 100 is not a way to get a percent. Instead, let me ask you this: if 1.006 is the isotope ratio after passing through one membrane, how would you calculate the ratio after passing through two membranes?

(1.004)2, where 1.004 is the new ratio I calculated.

EDIT: From your advice, I have:
We want the ratio of isotopes to be such that there is (in fact more than) 99 times more than the other. So we find ##n## such that ##(1.004)^n > 99 \Rightarrow n ## is roughly 1151. Is this correct?
EDIT2: I get the required answer by not making rounding errors. Thanks for the help.
 
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Glad it worked out. :approve:
 

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