EgyptAir Flight 804: 66 Missing After Plane Disappears

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The discussion revolves around the disappearance of EgyptAir Flight 804, which was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 people on board. Participants are sharing updates on the search and recovery efforts, the status of wreckage found, and speculations regarding the cause of the crash, including potential technical failures or terrorism. The scope includes ongoing developments, eyewitness reports, and preliminary investigations into the incident.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants report that wreckage has been found in the Mediterranean Sea, but there is uncertainty about whether it belongs to Flight 804.
  • A senior Greek air safety official has expressed doubt regarding the identification of the debris as belonging to an aircraft.
  • EgyptAir has reportedly retracted its earlier confirmation about the wreckage, with a vice-president stating that the debris is not from their aircraft.
  • Other participants mention that pieces of wreckage and personal belongings of passengers have been confirmed by EgyptAir, indicating a possible recovery of parts of the aircraft.
  • There are reports of warnings from the plane's systems about overheating and smoke in the lavatory shortly before the crash, suggesting potential technical issues.
  • Data from the final moments of the flight indicate an "internal explosion" might have occurred, but the cause remains unclear, with investigations ongoing into both technical faults and terrorism.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the identification of wreckage and the potential causes of the crash. There is no consensus on whether the debris found belongs to Flight 804 or what may have caused the incident.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the information available, including the lack of definitive identification of wreckage and the ongoing nature of the investigation into the causes of the crash.

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/80184227/live-blog-egyptair-flight-ms804-disappears

Note the above link is a blog about the ongoing situation. "Plane most likely crashed into the Mediterranean Sea, says Egypt's civil aviation agency." is currently the Breaking Headline on stuff.co.nz

EgyptAir Flight 804 heading from Paris to Cairo disappeared from radar with 66 people on board, an airline official said Thursday. The plane was flying at 37,000 feet when it disappeared shortly after entering Egyptian airspace, the airline tweeted. The Egyptian navy is conducting search and rescue operations in the area.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/18/middleeast/egyptair-flight-disappears/
 
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There is some doubt whether the wreckage found belongs to the flight:
A senior Greek air safety official says the debris found so far in the Mediterranean Sea does not belong to an aircraft.

EgyptAir flight MS804 crashed into the Mediterranean Sea on Thursday [NZ time] while carrying 66 passengers and crew from Paris to Cairo, and authorities have been scouring a wide area south of Crete to look for plane debris.

The airline has released a statement, saying the wreckage of the Airbus A320 has been found.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/80180270/egyptair-flight-reported-missing-from-radar
 
EgyptAir: Authorities recover debris as further details emerge
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36349021

The plane's warning system sent communications about overheating near the cockpit (some indication about window heating) and in an avionics bay underneath the cockpit, and smoke in the lavatory, apparently by the cockpit, then computer systems fail. (30 s to 1 m 20 s in video)

CBS reports progress in locating the flight recorders, aka 'black boxes'.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egyptai...ocated-mediterranean-sea/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e
 
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Data from the final moments before EgyptAir flight MS804 crashed into the Mediterranean suggest an "internal explosion" tore through the right side of the aircraft, a pilot says.

Investigators trying to determine whether the Airbus A320 jet was brought down by terrorism or a technical fault are poring over a series of warnings indicating smoke filled the cabin shortly before it disappeared from radar.

French authorities confirmed yesterday that smoke detectors went off aboard the flight a few minutes before it crashed but said it was not clear what caused the smoke or fire.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/80258365/internal-blast-tore-right-side-of-egyptair-jet