Elastic Potential Energy Question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving elastic potential energy in the context of a pinball machine. The scenario includes a ball launched by a spring-driven plunger on an inclined game board, with specific parameters such as mass, angle, and desired speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of conservation of mechanical energy to relate spring potential energy to gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy. There are discussions about the necessary conversions of units and the calculations needed to find the spring constant.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy principles, while others have clarified the role of gravitational effects on an incline. There is an ongoing exploration of how to account for height and the implications of the incline on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the assumptions related to gravitational force on an incline and the definition of height in the context of the problem. There is also mention of the homework site accepting a proposed solution, indicating some level of validation in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


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A pinball machine launches a 90g ball with a spring driven plunger. The game board is inclined at an angle of 6\circ above the horizontal.

Assume the plunger's mass and frictional effects are negligible. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/s2.

Find the force constant k of the spring that will give the ball a speed of 101cm/s when the plunger is released from rest with the spring compressed 4 cm from its relaxed position.
Answer in units of N/m.


Homework Equations


Not too sure, but...
Fg=mgsin\Theta
F=-kx
\sumF=ma
And since I see something about speed in there, I assume we'll need a kinematic equation as well? From what I can tell it looks like:
Vf2=Vi2+2ax

The Attempt at a Solution



To start, everything needs converted from cm to m. Next...I'm guessing what needs done is I need to find the acceleration necessary to get the ball from rest to 1.01m/s within 0.04m. Then once that's been found, would I calculate the net force and solve for k in that equation?
 
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Try using conservation of mechanical energy.
 
Ok. So...

\frac{1}{2}kx2=mgh+\frac{1}{2}mv2?
 
Correct. You need to do some trig to find h.
 
Right. Figured. Now, do I need to account for the incline with the force of gravity, or is it good at 9.8?
 
wmrunner24 said:
Right. Figured. Now, do I need to account for the incline with the force of gravity, or is it good at 9.8?
I am not sure what you mean. In mgh, the symbol "h" stands for "change in height". What is the change in height of the ball in this case?
 
I get how to do height. My above question was about gravity. The force of gravity on an incline is mgsin\Theta. I was wondering if that was necessary here because height is just straight up and down, like gravity.

Oh, and height would be x*sin\Theta.
 
It is not necessary. The work done by gravity when the ball moves up the incline by distance d is Wg=-mgdsinθ = -mgh which the negative of the potential energy change. So when you put in the potential energy change as mgh, you are taking care of the effects of gravity.
 
hmm...ok that makes sense. So I should get 61.9903N/m, right? The equation I got was:

\frac{m}{x^2}(2gxsin\Theta+Vf2)
 
  • #10
I didn't put in the numbers, but your expression looks right.
 
  • #11
The homework site accepted it as correct. Thank you very much.
 

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