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The discussion focuses on the elimination of arbitrary constants in mathematical equations, specifically addressing two problems involving the equations \(y=mx+\frac{h}{m}\) and \(cxy+c^2x+4=0\). Participants clarify the differentiation process with respect to \(x\) and confirm that \(m\) and \(h\) are constants, with \(m\) being the variable to eliminate. The correct differentiation yields \(y' = m\) and leads to the final expression \(y=xy'+\frac{h}{y'}\).

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eliminate the arbitrary constant,

1. $\displaystyle y=mx+\frac{h}{m}$ h is a parameter, m to be eliminated.2. $cxy+c^2x+4=0$ eliminate c

I don't know where to start please help me get started. thanks!
 
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What do you get in both problems when you differentiate with respect to $x$?
 
for the first problem I get

$m^2-my'+h=0$ is this correct?
 
bergausstein said:
for the first problem I get

$m^2-my'+h=0$ is this correct?

No, $m$ and $h$ are both constants, right?
 
but only m is to be eliminated not h. I'm confused.

$m^2-my'+x-y+h=0$ is this right?
 
bergausstein said:
but only m is to be eliminated not h. I'm confused.

$m^2-my'+x-y+h=0$ is this right?

I am going to assume that $m$ and $h$ are both parameters, and thus are constants. We are given:

$$y=mx+\frac{h}{m}$$

And so differentiating with respect to $x$, we obtain:

$$y'=m$$
 
To eliminate an arbitrary constant via differentiation, I would solve for that constant first:
\begin{align*}
y&=mx+ \frac{h}{m} \\
my&=m^{2}x+h \\
0&=m^{2}x-my+h \\
m&= \frac{y \pm \sqrt{y^{2}-4xh}}{2x}.
\end{align*}
Now differentiate both sides w.r.t. $x$, holding $y=y(x)$.
 
MarkFL said:
I am going to assume that $m$ and $h$ are both parameters, and thus are constants. We are given:

$$y=mx+\frac{h}{m}$$

And so differentiating with respect to $x$, we obtain:

$$y'=m$$

now I see it.

the answer is $\displaystyle y=xy'+\frac{h}{y'}$
 

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