Equation 2: Prove that ##x^2+2x\sqrt x+3x+2\sqrt x+1=0##

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The discussion revolves around the equation \(x^2+2x\sqrt{x}+3x+2\sqrt{x}+1=0\) and whether it has any real solutions. Participants explore methods for proving the existence or non-existence of solutions, including graphical approaches and algebraic methods.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Wolfram\Alpha indicates there are no real solutions to the equation.
  • One participant suggests using Ferrari's method or graphing as potential approaches to prove the lack of real solutions.
  • Another participant raises the point that if \(\sqrt{x}\) is not purely imaginary, then \(x\) must be complex.
  • A later reply expresses frustration with the perceived simplicity of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the equation does not have real solutions, but there is no consensus on the method to prove this or on the implications of the solutions being complex.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the nature of \(x\) and \(\sqrt{x}\) are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps needed to prove the claims made.

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I checked the following equation with Wolfram\Alpha and the answer was no real solution
How can we prove that?
$x^2+2x\sqrt x+3x+2\sqrt x+1=0$
 
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solakis said:
I checked the following equation with Wolfram\Alpha and the answer was no real solution
How can we prove that?
$x^2+2x\sqrt x+3x+2\sqrt x+1=0$
You pretty much are stuck with two choices: Ferrari's method or graphing. I'd choose graphing!

-Dan
 
$f(x) = x^2 + 2x\sqrt x + 3x + 2\sqrt x + 1 = (x + \sqrt x + 1)^2$, so if $f(x) = 0$ then $x + \sqrt x + 1 = 0$. That is a quadratic equation for $\sqrt x$, with solutions $\sqrt x = \frac12(-1 \pm i\sqrt3)$. If $\sqrt x$ is non-real then so is $x$. Therefore the equation $f(x) = 0$ has no real solutions.
 
[sp]Well, if $\sqrt{x}$ is not pure imaginary then x is complex, anyway.[/sp]

Nice catch!

-Dan
 
ha, ha so easy solution:mad:
 

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