Equilibrium of Charges at Circumference of a Circle

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The discussion focuses on achieving equilibrium for three charges placed on the circumference of a circle with radius 'a', specifically when two charges are positioned at an angle of π/2 radians from each other. The key takeaway is that the third charge must be positioned such that the net radial force on each charge is balanced, which requires analyzing the tangential forces acting on the charges. The solution involves using Coulomb's law and the law of sines to express charge distances in relation to the circle's radius.

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Homework Statement



Two charges placed at circumference of a circle of radius ##a## at ##\pi/2## from each other. Find the relative magnitude of third charge kept on the circumference such that the system is at equilibrium.

Homework Equations



Coulombs law.

The Attempt at a Solution



Let ##Q## be the unknown charge and ##x## be the length of equal sides of the triangle . then I get,

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By coulombs law,

$$F_{BA} = {-Qq \over x^2 } \left(\cos(135/2)\hat i + \hat j \sin(135/2) \right)$$

$$F_{CA} = {-q^2\over 4x^2(\cos (135/2))}(\hat i) $$Now the force on ##A## should be zero for the system to be in equilibrium but clearly there is a net force in -y direction that is not balanced by anything, so how the system is in equilibrium for any value of ##Q## ?

Where did I go wrong ?
 
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What is the value of ##x##?
 
kuruman said:
What is the value of ##x##?
Numerical value or what it represent in equations ?
 
Buffu said:
Numerical value or what it represent in equations ?
It's OK, I figured it out from the way you used it. I think you misunderstood that the problem requires the charges to be constrained on the circle. Imagine three charged beads on a wire loop, for example. As you correctly discovered, the force on anyone bead cannot be zero. However, if you constrained the charges on the (non-deformable) circle, equilibrium is reached if the net force on anyone bead is directed radially out. Therefore, the task before you is to balance the tangential forces.
 
Upon doing the problem, I think you will benefit from expressing the two charge-to-charge distances in terms of the radius of the circle. To do that, draw the inner right triangle (with its apex at the center) and then use the law of sines.
 
kuruman said:
It's OK, I figured it out from the way you used it. I think you misunderstood that the problem requires the charges to be constrained on the circle. Imagine three charged beads on a wire loop, for example. As you correctly discovered, the force on anyone bead cannot be zero. However, if you constrained the charges on the (non-deformable) circle, equilibrium is reached if the net force on anyone bead is directed radially out. Therefore, the task before you is to balance the tangential forces.

Thank you, I will try and tell you the results.
 

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